Thanks. I've seen firms that have actually shoved the elder partners out the door, so it could be worse. But it could definitely be better.
That's a great attitude. The elderly who know you are lucky.
That is really sad.
And you're great.
Have you read 'The Remains of the Day'? It touches on such issues with sensitivity.
And 'Death of a Salesman', of course. And 'Glengarry Glen Ross'.
Know the first two, but still haven't gotten around to Glenngary Glenn Ross. And thanks.
I know. I just don't think there's a lot out there that's much better.
You are a good woman. And you sparked a thought I needed to think. Thanks.
One can ask for no greater honor than making others think. Thank you.
Oh honey - I'm in tears. I too have seen this "you're past your prime old man, just sit in the corner till we need you" attitude.
And you are so right, with just a small amount of kindness understand and a TON of respect, these gray eagles can really contribute to a firm.
Be his rock as much as you can. Having anyone is willing to listen to his "old war stories" will give him back his respect and a sense of worth.
It is their foundation of knowledge, learned by LIFE EXPERIENCE, that really is the gift to the "young turks".
The world of law needs more people like you!
The young turks should remember that they are looking at their own future, and the lesson of how they treat these elder partners will be learned by the next set of associates they are growing to take their own places.
You said it all. *hugs* And if the proper opportunity arises, give my respects to Walt and Fred. They will always be Misters to me, even if we never meet.
2003-11-23 06:25 am (UTC)
Re: You said it.
you are such a kind hearted girl! at least you have the decency to treat fred as a human being unlike the rest of the law firm! give it 20 years though and every one of those sneering morons will themselves be old and put out to pasture. what goes around...
Exactly. I look at them and see my future. I want to take care of them just because of that.
It is good there are folks like you, and other here, that remind me that basic human decency is still alive and well, at least on the individual basis.
Thank you--and my regards as well to Mr. Fred and Mr. Walt.
2003-11-23 06:28 am (UTC)
Re: *sigh* *HUG*
I shall do so.
I used to work at two old firms, one a law firm. (Cadwalader Wickersham and Taft, as a temp, and Brown Brothers Harriman as a secretary.)
Those 'white shoe' firms really respected the older partners, and they also brought in the business. And they had GORGEOUS offices, and the same secretary they had from day one, it seemed.
They got a lot of respect.
I noticed it more at BBH, the bank, than CWT.
I always loved working at places like that (I temped a LOT) and if I ever did that sort of work again, I would try to gravitate to another 'white shoe' firm. I liked dressing up, too. (I am such a dork.)
I will say that at least they have not forced them to leave or left them stranded. Each has a secretary, their work does get assigned, and people do not laugh in their faces. I've seen it worse, but as you point out it could be infinitely better.
Nothing to add.
Just wanted to give you a thumbs up.
That is so sweet.
Another attitude I really hate is the notion that elderly people can't keep up with modern concepts; that they're mentally decades behind. The saddest thing about this one is that it's sometimes spread by older people who don't want to take the effort to acquire new knowledge. But it just isn't so! A person who's kept her mind in active condition will keep learning and adapting until the end of her days. And let's not forget that as far as new standards go, a lot of old folks were once young radicals, pushing for freedoms we now take for granted. (My grandmother was an expert witness in the Brown vs. Board of Education case.)
I am old enough to remember the upheaval, even though I was too little to be a part of it, in the 60s. People have no idea how much they are taking for granted.
Consider yerself added, m'lady.
You & Ferrett are a great pair.
Yet isn't it sad that lawyers work much longer than others? You would think an old partner could retire, and wonder whether they have anything to retire to.
But if they want to stick around, they should get the corner office.