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Trick-or-Treat [Oct. 29th, 2004|04:05 pm]
Zoethe
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I talked to my sister yesterday. Her kids had just gotten back from Trick-or-Treating.

"What?" said I, looking at the calendar.

"Yeah," she replied. "Warren had its Trick-or-Treating tonight. And another community nearby has its at 2:30 on Saturday, and then there's another community that has it Friday night."

"B-but," I stammered, "Halloween is on Sunday!"

Then today I got an email in another group list asking what time Trick-or-Treating was in Cleveland Heights.

Time? After dark. On Halloween. is this a trick question, like who is buried in Grant's tomb?

When did Trick-or-Treating unionize? Does it have dues, maybe three fun-size Snicker's Bars? Pay is clearly in candy, but are their benefits? Worker's Comp if a teenager mugs you and steals your candy bag? Major medical and dental to cover health problems incurred from all that junk food?

When I was a kid, Halloween was having a fight with your mother because she insisted that you wear your coat over your costume,* then staggering around the neighborhood mostly blind under a plastic mask with tiny slits of eyeholes that never quite went over your eyes, your nose damp from your hot breath. It was hoards of children on their own, the adults all ensconced at home to hand out candy. If you were over six years old having a parent along was humiliating.

No one told us when to go, and no one told us when to stop. We ranged afield until we'd exhausted ourselves and the candy supplies, then dragged our loot home.

The notion of punching the Trick-or-Treat clock just takes all the wild spirit out of it. And Trick-or-Treating at 2:30 in the afternoon?

Please.



*So traumatic was this disappointment that when Erin reached Trick-or-Treat age and we were living in Fairbanks, Alaska, I made her fairy princess costumes roomy enough to go over her snowsuit. An added benefit was that they were dress-up clothes for a couple years afterwards.
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From: tessbelle
2004-10-29 08:08 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean, it's weird. I think Cleveland's is Sunday...but really, who the hell knows anymore?!?!
That's a really good idea about making the costume big enough to fit over the coat.
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[User Picture]From: rev_tobias
2004-10-29 08:13 pm (UTC)
I blame Bush! *g,d&r*
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[User Picture]From: rhyo
2004-10-29 08:13 pm (UTC)
I've a couple friends that live in small towns in the South (West Virginia and Alabama) and in both places, Halloween is "moved" so it doesn't fall on a weekend. Why? No idea. It IS the Bible-Belt, though, and I bet that has something to do with it.
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[User Picture]From: greybeta
2004-10-29 11:19 pm (UTC)
In Southern Baptist churches, there are no Halloweens. There are only Fall Festivals.

I kind of laugh at it.
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[User Picture]From: theonlykow
2004-10-29 08:14 pm (UTC)
People are strange. The only reason we didn't trick-or-treat on the proper day was due to weather.

And the only weather that kept us inside was the deadly kind. Tornados and deadly hail and such. Snow? Rain? Wind? We'd take it all on.
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[User Picture]From: roniliquidity
2004-10-29 08:18 pm (UTC)
A snow suit fairy is the most adorable thing I've heard today.
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[User Picture]From: miripanda
2004-10-29 08:19 pm (UTC)
I dearly remember that, scouring the neighborhood for someone over 12 to accompany me and my pack of 8 year old hoodlums. Definately remember the coat fights. My brother was such a suck-up - he was a fighter pilot, so he was delighted, to wear his bomber jacket. He got his comeuppance when I found every single hiding place within 5 minutes and took all his almond joys. I remember fondly the hiding places too...hiding those reeses so well that come christmas, a few fell out of your stocking onto santa's feet.
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[User Picture]From: ashna
2004-10-29 08:22 pm (UTC)
I always made myself costumes that were warmer. Layers that could go under and such. Made sure jackets were NOT nessisary.

Though being in vancouver the umbrella tended to be a bit annoying. ^^;;
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[User Picture]From: lysana
2004-10-29 08:23 pm (UTC)
And how's this grab you? I saw an article in my local paper talking about one upper-class secction of San Jose, CA where they see hundreds of children every year. Why? Word got out that they give out the really good stuff, like full-sized bars of chocolate. Parents drive their kids out of their own neighborhoods and into that one. Part of the point of trick-or-treating is neighborhood contact, or so I thought.
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[User Picture]From: miripanda
2004-10-29 08:40 pm (UTC)
I think it definately depends on the neighborhoods...where I live now is safe by itself, but it's close to a bike path that has been a venue for some really unpleasant activities. I don't blame parents for wanting to compress the experience, although I say if you're going to do it, at least go to an amusement park where they'll have hay rides and stuff.
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[User Picture]From: kashmera
2004-10-29 08:39 pm (UTC)
The bit about doing it on different nights that gets me is that some kids get 'confused' about what they're supposed to do.

The incident that springs to mind happened when I lived in an area with a lot of kids that played outside in the street. I was walking back to my house and heard one child yell to another 'what've you been doing?' to which the questioned child replied 'I've been trick or treating again'.

Again?!

I never quite believed kids who came around on nights before the actual date with some excuse, but this blatant admission was an eye-opener.
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[User Picture]From: miripanda
2004-10-29 09:37 pm (UTC)
Ooh ooh..please do that! I imagine the beginnings of a revolutionary spirit in the baffled minds of 8 year old lemmings!
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From: stevietee
2004-10-29 08:54 pm (UTC)
My home town started doing that when I was in high school -- the weekend before or during Halloween, they'd have "Safe Trick Or Treating" in the downtown square, sponsored by the police department, in the middle of the afternoon.

Then again, my mom made us stop trick-or-treating when I was in 5th grade, and dragged us to musical concerts at the local college instead, which was torture for a little kid on Halloween night!
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[User Picture]From: dawntreader90
2004-10-29 08:58 pm (UTC)
6th grade was the last time my mom let me trick-or-treat. she said i was "too old." if i thought i could get away with it, hell, i'd STILL be going out! :)
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[User Picture]From: dawntreader90
2004-10-29 08:57 pm (UTC)
i can understand a community saying that trick-or-treating must end by 9 p.m., especially since halloween is on a school night.

but yeah, the 2:30 in the afternoon variety on a thursday, a full three days before halloween is idiotic.

we don't get too many trick-or-treaters because we live on the third floor in an apartment complex right across from a townhouse complex. it's much easier to get candy when you don't have to climb stairs. they cart kids to our neighborhood by the vanfull. they line up to drop them off on one street and line up at the end to pick them up again.
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[User Picture]From: miripanda
2004-10-29 09:39 pm (UTC)
I loved it when I was little and lived in an apartment complex though..it was like having a castle of servants ready to give you things, and for one night out of the year it wasn't in my imagination!
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[User Picture]From: kuangning
2004-10-29 09:08 pm (UTC)
Most of the hullaballoo is that Hallowe'en falls on a Sunday. A lot of folks think that, Sunday being the Lord's day, and Hallowe'en being evil/demonic/Satan-glorifying/whatever, have made a huge fuss about the day. It's stupid, but there ya go. More candy for the kids, I guess.
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[User Picture]From: amberfox
2004-10-29 09:24 pm (UTC)
In my opinion, anyone who says, as one memorable woman did, that Halloween is unsuitable for Sunday because it's the Devil's holiday and kids will get confused is insane. Look, either it's the Devil's holiday and you shouldn't be celebrating it at all, or it's just a party for kids and it can be whenever. Pick one and stick with it.
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[User Picture]From: finding_helena
2004-10-29 09:54 pm (UTC)
When I was a kid in Virginia, we had trick-or-treat like normal human beings. Then I moved to Ohio and they had that Beggar's Night shit going on. Now I live in Kentucky just a few miles from Ohio, and my boyfriend, who grew up here, says that they have normal trick-or-treat here too. I am forced to conclude that Ohio is just weird.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-10-29 10:43 pm (UTC)
Ohio is just weird.

That is definitely true. [g]
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