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This is almost worse [Nov. 3rd, 2004|05:52 am]
Zoethe
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Kerry needs 140,000 votes in Ohio. There are approximately 190,000 provisional ballots to be counted. So mathematically, Kerry still has a chance.

But statistically? The validation of provisional ballots would have to come in at a rate about 7-10 times higher than usual, and pretty much all those ballots would have to be cast for Kerry.

Realistically, it's just not gonna happen.

But how can you not hope? If a loved one is in a coma and the doctors tell you there is only a 5% chance of recovery, how do you not cling to that 5%?

So it just keeps hurting.
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[User Picture]From: dana3
2004-11-03 11:15 am (UTC)
So keep hoping instead. It ain't over til it's over, and Kerry took Cuyahoga County 2-1.

B*B -- :D
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-11-03 11:33 am (UTC)
Even 2-1 won't do it.
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[User Picture]From: elfwench
2004-11-03 11:23 am (UTC)
Well, truthfully if he doesn't concede the absentee/overseas ballots could make the difference since they aren't counted until November 12th.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-11-03 11:32 am (UTC)
Oh, he won't concede - the Ohio provisional ballots will take at least 10 days to review and count. Few states are close enough for the absentee ballots to change the call, though.
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From: stevietee
2004-11-03 12:23 pm (UTC)
Absentee ballots are also generally heavily military -- and the military heavily favors Bush.
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[User Picture]From: lunarennui
2004-11-03 11:31 am (UTC)
i'm a pessimist.

when they say there's really no hope, it's only a 5% chance and even that is unlikely, i say...i've said...

pull the plug.

and she's kept breathing.

of course, she (my grandmother) was essentially gone for years before that. but it was still hard. and she kept breathing. that time. and extended the suffering for another year--hers, and ours.

i don't know. is there hope? or is there only more pain?

sorry. your simile struck a nerve.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-11-03 11:33 am (UTC)
We are SUCH the bluebirdds of happiness today....

[wan grin]
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[User Picture]From: lunarennui
2004-11-03 11:36 am (UTC)
*offers you chocolate*

this is totally off-topic, but i'm still praying for kristi.
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[User Picture]From: lunarennui
2004-11-03 11:40 am (UTC)
(see, i'm only pessimistic when it directly affects me. the rest of the time, i'm magically changed into my rainbow-winged, sparkly, OPTIMISTIC form.)

i really am, and have been, sending prayers. something in me expects a miraculous last-minute happy ending.
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[User Picture]From: fieryfae469
2004-11-03 11:58 am (UTC)
we all worked so hard... but the churches mobilized and sent out "their army" to rid the world of the evil evil vile baby killers, and gay lovers, as I and many others supporting Kerry were called.


**sigh**

But still, standing in the rain for 3 hours yesterday working the phones ... it is all still worth it to me.
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[User Picture]From: lunarennui
2004-11-03 12:10 pm (UTC)
i want to smack them all. i've had an abortion, and there WERE extenuating circumstances--i convinced an anti-abortion bush supporter tonight that i was right to do what i did. she already supported gay rights.

i try to tell myself that the impact we had this time will only be greater next election.
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[User Picture]From: fieryfae469
2004-11-03 01:28 pm (UTC)
I believe in a woman's right to chose. Otherwise... gov't will.
It scares me now that the right wing nutcases have another 4 years to continue removing our freedoms, and instilling a small conservative thought into each and every life in this USA. We had come a long way, but the White Christian Fascism now can continue to entrench itself deeply.

Thanks for having the patience and guts to talk to that person and somehow reaching her. that is awesome.

I do hope and believ the that Bush and his insanity, along with strides made by others will impact the election in 4 more years.

Of course all my worries and sadnesses COULD be wrong, and Ohio go to Kerry. I still am shocked Florida did. :/
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[User Picture]From: dreagoddess
2004-11-03 12:43 pm (UTC)
There ARE Bush supporters who aren't religious, aren't gay-bashers, aren't abortion-haters, and aren't intolerant. I'm agnostic, in support of gay marriage, pro-choice, and generally speaking pretty tolerant. I also voted for Bush, because I think he was the best man for the job. Honestly, if the Democrats had put up someone more moderate, I might have voted for him. I at least wouldn't have been scared of what would happen if he were elected. Kerry scared me.
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[User Picture]From: fieryfae469
2004-11-03 12:55 pm (UTC)
well you just elected into office someone who in the next four years will strive valiantly to take your choice, Eliminate and outlaw any and all gay/lesbian activities and rights, and put us back into the 19th century, escalate the war, ruin and destroy any chance at all of Social Security for you or your children, continue to be the champion of lost wilderness and ruined ecological systems...

And when all this and more happens, then look to see who was the more scary of the two. I think BUSH and CHENEY are. I cannot believe anyone with values you descrived could have done that. But ...

Obviously many others may have done just the same.

I know Kerry was not the greatest choice, but I believe he would have done his best to change and improve this Nation.
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[User Picture]From: theferrett
2004-11-03 01:01 pm (UTC)
Kerry's pretty goddamned right wing, is the problem. For you, "Moderate" is probably "A Republican who looks like a Democrat," but given that Kerry was pro-big business I don't see how more moderate he could have gotten without losing the Dems.

England already snickers when they hear Kerry being called "leftist." They know.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-11-03 01:40 pm (UTC)
Was Kerry the best choice out there? No. But practically speaking, Congress was going to remain Republican, so he wouldn't have been able to accomplish many of his goals.

Now Bush will have at least two if not three Supreme Court appointments. Do you like the sound of "Chief Justice Scalia"?

I'm sorry if I sound angry. I just think that you and the people like you who came down on the Bush side of the equation have saddled us with a mistake that will have repercussions for generations to come. I know that wasn't your intent, and I hope to the heavens that I am wrong.
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[User Picture]From: shermel
2004-11-03 01:17 pm (UTC)
What would happen if Kerry conceded and when the votes are counted it turns out he'd won after all? Is the concession then retracted or are the votes ignored?

Seriously, watching this election is like trying to figure out cricket scores.
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[User Picture]From: fieryfae469
2004-11-03 01:29 pm (UTC)
cricket would be far easier... lol
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-11-03 01:42 pm (UTC)
If he conceded, the vote count would likely cease. But he won't.
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[User Picture]From: shermel
2004-11-03 01:53 pm (UTC)
It's more like cricket than I thought.

I reckon a candidate shouldn't be allowed to give up just because he thinks he lost. The only thing that should decide it is the votes.

I'm kinda amazed that he'll get flak for not conceding.
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[User Picture]From: jfargo
2004-11-03 02:46 pm (UTC)
I'm sure you already know now, at 9:30 in the morning, but John Kerry is going to be addressing everyone at about 10am. Many are saying that he's going to concede.

I'm hoping he doesn't, because just last night he said that "every vote will count," but we'll see.
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[User Picture]From: rhapsody_98
2004-11-03 03:28 pm (UTC)
At the risk of being beaten down into a proverbial bloody e-pulp, why do you care so much? Sure, you hate Bush, but he'll be gone in four years. There's nothing any of us can really do besides vote, and if you've done that, then you've done your duty. The world will go on no matter who is president. If I had voted for Bush, and Kerry had won, I'd be congratulating him, not bitter becauce my man didn't win. *shrug* I guess politics isn't as important as the every day things to me.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-11-03 03:36 pm (UTC)
It's not the four years. It's the Supreme Court nominations, of which there will certainly be two, quite possibly three, in the next four years. That could have repercussions in civil rights for decades to come.

Otherwise, I would let it go and show solidarity. But the real tragedy is the reactionary nominations we are certainly going to see.
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[User Picture]From: zero_design
2004-11-03 04:08 pm (UTC)
Now I don't live in your country, so please take that into account.

Yes, he'll be gone in four years (maybe, assuming he doesn't take this 'win' as a sign that it is his destiny to go for 3,4 or more terms). But putting that aside, look at what he's managed to do during the last 4 years. He's invaded two countries, pretty much forgetting about the first country in his rush to play with the shiny new one. His choice to invade Iraq has cost billions of dollars, putting ruinous financial strain on your economy. The war has also turned world public opinon solidly anti-american. He and his people have chipped away at any freedoms they could get away with. All this when starting from a thriving economy and strong world moral support.

4 more years of his erratic and destructive behaviour sure as heck scares me...
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[User Picture]From: lothie
2004-11-03 06:59 pm (UTC)
This may be too late since he's already conceded (from what I hear) but...

http://www.bobharris.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=120&Itemid=2

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