THANK YOU for saying this kind of thing. (I came over from conuly
I voted for Kerry. I'm getting tired, hanging around Kerry supporters, of hearing people who voted for Bush described in these ways. Particularly since many of them are incredibly prejudiced epithets of one kind or another (class, ability, religion, etc) while telling the other person they're being prejudiced.
Like "You fundie redneck retard bigot." (I'm developmentally disabled, have relatives who'd probably be described as "rednecks", and have friends who are fundamentalists (not all of whom would've voted for Bush, but one did). But even if I didn't have these close connections to these things, I wouldn't consider this acceptable — it just hits close to home given who I am, who I know, and who I'm related to.) It strikes me as particularly weird since the first three terms are incredibly bigoted themselves, but people use those terms to call others bigots. Weird. :-/
The church I attend is Quaker, which in this particular branch of Quakerism means it's fairly progressive, and most people there are Christian. Quakers (many branches at any rate) have been progressive and Christian for centuries. (My Meeting performs gay marriages, too, and has been sitting there doing that for a long time. Not all Meetings do, but this one does.) So I am often surprised when people say the two can't go together, since I grew up around them going together. (And even my most conservative and fundamentalist friend is no stereotype and doesn't think what gay people do are any of his business given that "Judge not..." and "He who is without sin..." thing. Which is good because I'm gay.)
Anyway, yeah, I agree with you. Although I'd extend it even to when dealing with people who're considered "unreachable". People deserve respect. (Hell, even Bush deserves a certain amount of respect as a human being
, he just doesn't IMO deserve to be leading this country or for his crimes to go unhindered. Of course this is all a quite predictably Quaker view — people at my Meeting frequently speak vehemently against Bush's policies while also speaking against the way some people talk about him and his supporters. It's part of the ideas in Quakerism that people are all
people, no matter what they've done. To answer another poster, one reason they're not all that known is that they — again at least the branch I attend — don't really proselytize or seek a lot of personal recognition. People from my Meeting have been quietly off in Iraq and other places (including some in America) for years working for peace and not asking to be noticed, only for it to work.)