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Uh.... [Mar. 8th, 2005|01:05 pm]
Zoethe
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Am I just too sensitive? Or is Doonesbury extra-tasteless today?
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[User Picture]From: theferrett
2005-03-08 06:11 pm (UTC)
You know, I almost said the same thing.

I'm sort of waiting to see if maybe I'm misinterpreting it tomorrow, but it looks really bad today.
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[User Picture]From: cyan_blue
2005-03-08 06:15 pm (UTC)
I guess it's Trudeau acknowledging that HST is who Duke was based on.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 06:28 pm (UTC)
Yes, but the "kaboom" is kind of insensitive.
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[User Picture]From: cyan_blue
2005-03-08 06:33 pm (UTC)
See today's Doonesbury Feed comments thread for speculations on why.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/doonesbury/171399.html
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 06:38 pm (UTC)
Nothing I didn't understand, but still a disturbing take.
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[User Picture]From: shezan
2005-03-08 08:53 pm (UTC)
Like Hunter S. never was "insensitive"?

He didn't like the Trudeau strip, though; but then his victims subjects usually didn't like what he wrote about them...
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From: drooling_ferret
2005-03-08 06:18 pm (UTC)
Why "tasteless"?
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[User Picture]From: theferrett
2005-03-08 06:25 pm (UTC)
Mainly because Hunter blew the top of his head off, and the gag is that Duke's head keeps exploding.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 06:28 pm (UTC)
Head explodey.
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From: drooling_ferret
2005-03-08 06:32 pm (UTC)
That and the cheesey "sound effect" were what made it funny. Chalk it up to different tastes, I guess.
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[User Picture]From: thejunebug
2005-03-09 06:15 am (UTC)
Ewww. I didn't even see the correlation until you pointed it out. I just thought the head explodey thing was out of shock... which is what mine did. I didn't even think about how he died.
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From: cktraveler
2005-03-08 06:18 pm (UTC)
Is that supposed to be some kind of tribute, both very late and very poorly executed?
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[User Picture]From: magicpointeshoe
2005-03-08 06:27 pm (UTC)
When have comics ever been timely on the unexpected?
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From: cktraveler
2005-03-08 06:49 pm (UTC)
I'm pointing out the lateness not because I'm demanding a tribute cartoon on the exact day of the man's death. I'm pointing out the lateness as an excellent argument not to do a joke that will be badly dated even a week later.

If Trudeau was going to do anything, it should have been a retrospective or tribute on a Sunday strip, scheduled for a specific date close after the event by arrangement with the syndicate and publishers (like was done for the World Trade Center attack), not merely a "hey look who died" strip in normal rotation.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 06:29 pm (UTC)
Methinks yes. Late, I understand - there are deadline issues and comics have to be turned in weeks ahead.
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[User Picture]From: theferrett
2005-03-08 06:29 pm (UTC)
Syndicated strips usually run a month in advance, just in case there's an issue. This was probably the quickest he could get it slotted in.
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[User Picture]From: lilituc
2005-03-08 06:33 pm (UTC)
It's said he was on medical leave for the last couple weeks.
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From: cktraveler
2005-03-08 06:53 pm (UTC)
That, on the other hand, is an excellent reason to have waited this long, and it's likely that he didn't have a lot of time to come up with a strip idea based on the event.
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From: cktraveler
2005-03-08 06:52 pm (UTC)
Which, like I said, is an excellent reason not to do a throwaway daily about a news event.

A strip that is actually about current events also shouldn't be running on this long a delay cycle, and many of them don't -- Tom Tomorrow responds to major world events in the very next weekly strip.
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[User Picture]From: happydog
2005-03-08 06:19 pm (UTC)
Yup! but they had to face the issue somehow...
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[User Picture]From: kimmaline
2005-03-08 08:22 pm (UTC)
They could have found a better way.
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[User Picture]From: happydog
2005-03-08 08:27 pm (UTC)
He could have. I don't know why he didn't. It looks bad, for sure, but I'm like Ferrett, I'm willing to give him a day to get himself out of it.
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[User Picture]From: roniliquidity
2005-03-08 06:51 pm (UTC)
Gah. That is horrible. I wouldn't be bothered if his whole body was popping in and out of existence, but just his head is tacky.
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[User Picture]From: just_carrie
2005-03-08 06:57 pm (UTC)
that made me and my transexual lamb, cry.
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[User Picture]From: xforge
2005-03-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
I honestly don't think Trudeau meant the head-explosion to be in any way related to the way HST killed himself. I think it's kinda funny actually, a classic Duke reaction.

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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 07:10 pm (UTC)
No, I think it's directly related. He reads that HST died, his head explodes. He checks it on the internet, his head explodes.
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[User Picture]From: callie_chan
2005-03-08 08:38 pm (UTC)
I've always interpreted the whole 'head explodey' gag as an expression of shock, myself, so it may depend on how you interpret the comic. (I also didn't know exactly how HST died, though, to be entirely fair, so maybe that's influencing my view of it.)

-Callisto
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 08:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, hell, if it weren't for Hunter blowing his own brains out, I wouldn't object at all. I just think there are less tactless ways he could have expressed shock.
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[User Picture]From: shezan
2005-03-08 08:54 pm (UTC)
I honestly don't think Trudeau meant the head-explosion to be in any way related to the way HST killed himself.

Of course it was. HST was a take-no-prisoners kind of writer, and this is Trudeau applying the recipe...
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[User Picture]From: wilfulcait
2005-03-08 07:07 pm (UTC)
To me, it smacked of Wiley Coyote -- he steps off the cliff and walks merrily along, until he looks down and realizes where he is, at which point he falls. So you have the Duke/HT character merrily going along his day until he realizes that his alter ego has shot himself in the head.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-03-08 07:14 pm (UTC)
I get WHY it's happening. I just question the taste with which it is done. It's sort of like part of Trudeau believes he owns HST and not just Duke.
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[User Picture]From: wilfulcait
2005-03-08 07:21 pm (UTC)
Am I mistaken in recollecting that, at his own suggestion, Thompson's remains are being fired from a cannon? Is there any reason to think that he wanted or expected his death to be treated with dignity or reverence or anything of the sort? I see this as a tribute in the best spirit of the original.
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[User Picture]From: demiurgent
2005-03-08 07:46 pm (UTC)
Guys?

Duke's head has been exploding from almost his original introduction, when he was far more based on HST than he is today. The same as yesterday's Karmic Shift.

These are Fear and Loathing references. This is not a reference to HST's suicide. This is remembering where the character came from.
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From: (Anonymous)
2005-03-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
That was what I thought as well.

One of my favorite Duke trips involved a miniature B-52 doing a bombing run right in front of him. Something about it just cracks me up-- even though I'm perfectly well aware of the Vietnam tie-in.

-1em
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[User Picture]From: ldygwynedd
2005-03-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Pretty tasteless but Hunter would have loved it.
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From: appleblossomtru
2005-03-08 08:17 pm (UTC)
Agreed. Looks right up Hunter's alley.
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[User Picture]From: shezan
2005-03-08 08:51 pm (UTC)
Hunter S. style applied to Hunter S. Seems karmic enought to me.
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[User Picture]From: undertheivy99
2005-03-08 09:06 pm (UTC)
I read this too - I didn't think of how HST died until you mentioned it. I just thought the comic was another way of showing one of Duke's "WTF?" moments. For example, back when Duke was recovering from being a zombie (this was a while back), the top half of his head had the famous flag-raising bit on Iwa Jima (sp?) with little explosions going off around it.
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[User Picture]From: undertheivy99
2005-03-08 09:19 pm (UTC)

Slight hijack

Here's a link to the HST tribute on the Doonsbury page, along with other links to the more infamous comics featuring Duke:

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/faqs/index.html

Patty
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