Because, well, um...I mean, clearly it's because...um...because...
God Bless America!
But anyway, I suppose there's a difference between "Right to Live" and "Can't Afford to Do So."
The least they could have done was extended the time she had until her mother could arrive. Not doing that is *literally* adding insult to injury.
Clock was ticking, dude, and the bill just kept going up.
Texas is not a bastion of medical mercy. I don't expect that from them. I just want to know why the right-to-lifers were mute.
How the hell is that legal?
Because Bush signed a bill making it legal to cease medical treatment on the indigent. Shortly before he hauled his "Respect Life" ass to the Oval Office.
Why? Because she was black, like Sun Hudson
Or if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps it's just because she was poor. Not much of a selection though, is it.
Poor is the great social unifier.
Found this from a Dallas news report.
This happened ten days ago, and this is the first I'm hearing of it. But Dr. Kavorkian is still in prison for helping people who were ready to die do so with dignity.
I don't even know who we are anymore.
Ugh. Just ugh.
And FYI: bugmenot.com
, to avoid sites with registration.
2005-12-23 08:36 pm (UTC)
I was about to post the same.
oooh that makes me so MAD! Fucking hypocrites.
Why is one of the weightiest words in language and the least carried to an answer.
Why? Why? Why?
Sorry for the obvious break in topicality, but I had to compliment the icon.
Unfortunately the answer is pure and simple.
Her family didn't make a big enough contribution to the Administration's interests like the Schiavo family did.
And (I know I'm gonna get reamed for this one), The State of Texas is 99% full of assholes - look who their leader was for so long, and they have a "superiority" complex of which I can not comprehend.
I am stunned by this. Simply stunned.
Here is a woman who was alive, concious, thinking, and reasoning. And she was murdered in a strange bed by a governmental decision that she didn't deserve to live because it was too expensive.
People talk about putting a price on human life, often in wrongful death suits. But here, someone coldly and rationally put a price on the life of a living woman, and decided she just wasn't worth that much.
Lacking insurance, I dread becoming seriously ill or getting in an accident, because there's absolutely no support network. At least the state I live in hasn't murdered me, yet.
Okay, so I just want to point out a couple things. First, I think the cries of racism might be just a _little_ bit premature. The class-based discrimination might be a little more accurate, since money truly does talk. Regardless...
I think what we have here is a hair-splitting distinction between medically futile, and right-to-die. This woman, and Sun Hudson, had progressive, incurable diseases. Even had life-support been supported and maintained indefinitely, they inarguably would have died of the condition they were under treatment for. Most likely, very painfully.
Schiavo, Spiro Nikolouzos, and others in the "persistent vegetative state" argument, are right-to-die issues. While it's astoundingly unlikely they would ever wake up, they are not suffering from a condition that would ultimately kill them on its own. Therefore, if you're splitting hairs, you're _killing_ the PVS people, while you're simply "hastening" the terminal.
My personal take on this is that it's futile to maintain ANY of them. I'll even go so far as to say that money _shouldn't_ matter... if you want to throw money away so badly, give it to a research organiation looking for a cure for X, rather than pumping it into a breathing corpse. While this unfortunately plays into the whole class-warfare issue, I think this especially holds true with uninsured and Medicare patients, because (unfair though it may be), they're burning through MY money, not their own.
I agree 100% that there is certainly hypocracy at work here. But, I do believe that the arguments are at least feasible ones, and perhaps jumping to racism/classism accusations in this case, may be a bit premature.
You know, if you can't see that the Bush Administration is racist, I don't know what else to tell you. My majority black city was left to founder (literally) on its own for four days while the Bush Administration dawdled, and GWB played his presidential guitar that some white redneck country singer gave him. How can you not see the racism in this? How can you not see that this administration does not give a good goddamn about anyone who is not as white and as privileged as themselves?
It's not overt racism. It's worse. It's covert racism, covert classism. They know they can't get away with open racism, overt classism - won't play well, even in the red states - but their sense of fair play and righteousness only extends as far as their own people. And that's a blunt fact. I saw it firsthand in New Orleans. If you can't see it, you're not looking.
*cuddles the NHS like a big teddy bear*.
(oh noes, can't have the state paying for poor people to stay allive, how dreadfull! taking away *my* right to have lots of money! how dare you! mine! my own! my precioussssss, stupid poor people deserve to die)
(please not the *sarcasm* in that last para)
And it isn't as if the NHS actually costs us anything compared to the US situation. From the 2005 WHO annual report, in the most recent year for which they have figures (2002), the US spent $5,274 per head on healthcare of which $2,368 was spent by the government. The UK spent $2,160 (international dollar rate) per head on healthcare of which $1,801 was spent by the government.
Yes, that's right. US Public spending on health costs them more than the NHS costs us. (And still costs more than the total spending costs us).
Getting down to the Blunt Facts, in my opinion? GWB, the current "administration," and the "pro-life" people are nothing more than privileged white people, and they only care about privileged white people.
Do I sound Marxist? Socialist even? Maybe so. The older I get the more Socialist I become, but as long as we let the rich rule us, this is going to happen. As long as we let corporations rule us, this is going to happen. As long as completely unfettered free-market capitalism is the true religion of the United States of America, and as long as Money is the only real God that most Americans worship, this is going to happen.
It's not good and it's not right, and I hate it as much as you do. And all we can do is fight the little battles and cry. But as long as the American people allow that people like Dick Cheney, GWB and Don Rumsfeld are all right guys and should be allowed to run the country, this will continue to happen.
Wow. That sucks. And that's a thoroughly inadequate expression of how I feel.
I've emailed my elected officials, so will not go back to being quietly outraged until I think of something else to do about it.
I posted about Tirhas on Wednesday
. I have links to two local news stories there.
I am so glad you've posted!
I'm sorry I missed your post. I've barely been looking at my flist.
This really makes me so sick, I hope someone has the decency to send the woman's remains home or whereever her family wants them, and gives a proper funeral. Tell me where to donate and I will.
If I were truly hypocritical, I would say that this should be a common occurance for a poor East African immigrant. Survival of the fittest, ya know?
I find it interesting that when you google her name you get the wfaa article, then one from RUSSIA then one from GERMANY...then a bunch of bloggers. Pretty interesting that other countries are outraged...and I am reading through comments from people telling you that we are overreacting to the whole thing.http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+Tirhas+Habtegiris&btnG=Google+Search
Not good with html, sorry.
"When they came for the homosexuals, I said nothing, for I was not a homosexual."
I hope there is someone left to speak for me. There seemed to be no one to speak for her.
2005-12-24 03:23 am (UTC)
Re: Let's link
Thanks for the links. I think it is important to get the word out. Even if the decision had some validity, the manner in which it was carried out was appalling.
Welcome to America: Hypocrisy at its best.
I'm confused...if she had no money for healthcare, isn't Medicaid supposed to kick in? How much time were we talking about to get her mother out to see her? a month or two? Why was there no publicity drive to try to push the process along? I would've assumed there would be some fundraising to donate money to cover the cost of flying her mom out or help defray the cost of keeping her alive long enough. The articles mentioned the hospital was willing to pay for an immigration lawyer so they were willing to pay a certain amount to help things along. How much does it cost to keep someone on ventilators? It sounds heartless but we can't keep everyone alive indefinitely. Sounds like in this case it would've only been until her mom could come see her though so I do think it's sad they couldn't keep her going that long (though I don't know how long that would've been). But the thing is, the dollars that the hospital loses in keeping a terminally ill person alive are the same dollars the hospital can't spend on other charity cases for people who will get to live the rest of their lives. They're hard choices but we do ask medical staff to make these decisions often, don't we?
No, and I am not talking so much about the hospital's decision, but the lack of interest of the Respect Life people.
Outrage is right...so much for people who care about the right to life. Evidently it only applies when people aren't poor or minority.
O.o Christ on a crutch! (and various other exclamations of initial disbelief)
For all my rantings and ravings about and disillusionment with the German medical system (mainly fueled by inside views I have received from friends working in IC units), this has to be the sickest, most perverted example of today's "money talks" policies in modern medicine. Shame on the doctor who signed that order - in fact, as shame is far from enough, hell and damnation on the bastard.
Disclaimer: I readily concede that I don't have clue #1
about the US's healthcare system.
I think you could sum up our system pretty well with the phrase, "You're on your own."
I posted about this earlier as well. I think the absence of outcry is more significant than the presence of it was during the Terri Schiavo incident. And the conclusion I've quietly come to is that Terri was a pawn. The interest in her was whipped up, beaten into a frenzy, and then dropped as quickly as it was manufactured in the first place. If the administration truly cared about continuing life support in hopeless cases, stories like this one would be front page news until they'd pushed through some legislation to deal with it. Their on-again, off-again outrage doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
As for the public ... most of the Right to Lifers screaming about Terri were well-meaning but misguided. They're not screaming this time because they don't know. They haven't been told about it, and their leader isn't signalling that it's Vital that they care.