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And now to seek some B5 advice [Aug. 27th, 2006|09:14 am]
Zoethe
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I've hedged a bit in my praise-heaping; I have not actually finished the show, only the first four seasons.

Now, I've heard that season 5 is excrutiating, but Ferrett sort of hedged a bit last night when talking about it: "The last episode is a must-see. And there are some other good ones. And...."

He sighed, perplexed. "I dunno. Maybe you should ask LJ."

And so here I am, asking you who are B5 fans whether I should push my way through to the end, or run away while I can.

Is it worth watching season 5?

No! Walk away now, while you still can
4(2.2%)
Yes! It's my favorite season!
3(1.7%)
Just watch the final episode, that's all that's worth watching
4(2.2%)
Cherrypick. There are a few episodes worth seeing; have Ferrett netflicks those
17(9.5%)
You know you're a completist. It's worth the pain to have seen it all
80(44.7%)
I haven't seen it, but I have to push a button. Good thing you put this one here for me so that I don't screw up your results.
71(39.7%)
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[User Picture]From: simianlovedoc
2006-08-27 01:41 pm (UTC)
There are parts of season 5 that were painful, but I feel it is necessary to watch all of it to see the story complete itself. Would you skip the last 5 chapters of a book? Or would you only read 3 of the last five chapters? Despite the bad bits (and I feel none of them are worse than some of the worst parts of season one. TKO or Believers, anyone?) each of the episodes has something to contribute to the overall story. "Day of the Dead" and "Sleeping In Light" are two of the best pieces of the series. I made my wife and kids watch the whole series and despite the bad bits, I think they appreciated knowing the whole story.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-27 02:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm inclined to think that way.
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[User Picture]From: ronin_kakuhito
2006-08-27 02:10 pm (UTC)
As I recall from watching it years ago, the last season wasn't actually bad, it just wasn't as good as the bulk of the show. All of the good stuff you said about season one? It applies to season 5 as well.
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[User Picture]From: wishiwasnt
2006-08-27 02:12 pm (UTC)
The thing about season 5 is, despite the comments which have stated that it's necessary to see the whole story, is that it's not part of the original story. The original story ended after Sheridan defeated Earth and everything.

However, if you're a completist, and you did like the first 4 seasons, you might as well enjoy the last time you can see the characters together.

Plus, you can make fun of Byron, who sucks, in his own way, as much as any other crappy sci-fi character who's ever existed.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-27 02:15 pm (UTC)
Poor Ferrett; I think he's already resigned to the pain. He knows me....
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[User Picture]From: pinwiz
2006-08-27 03:30 pm (UTC)
The worst of the pain is in the first half of the season, so when they finally get back to Londo/G'Kar things get better.

I guess it's up to you to decide if you want to watch the "epilogue" to the story. I admit to tearing up quite a bit at the last few episodes as the music swelled and we said goodbye to our favorite characters and... But first there was Byron.

If you survivied Buffy Season Six, then you can handle B5 Season 5.
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[User Picture]From: theferrett
2006-08-27 04:04 pm (UTC)
BYRON!!!!!

(Shakes fist at ceiling)
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[User Picture]From: scarfman
2006-08-27 03:48 pm (UTC)

I don't recall from the time that season five was all that worse, and I certainly couldn't tell that much of the overarc conclusion had been crowbarred into season four in fear of cancellation (though now that I've found out there are things it explains). I picked the Completist option because your options didn't include a midway point between Completist and Five's my favorite!.

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From: volta
2006-08-27 04:44 pm (UTC)
+1
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From: volta
2006-08-27 04:43 pm (UTC)
Season 5 really was not that bad, just not great. Watch it, otherwise you will always wonder if you should have.
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[User Picture]From: roniliquidity
2006-08-27 04:48 pm (UTC)
Mine's two votes for James and I to watch it. I swear good/bad Bab5 seasons are a social meme. In Columbus, our friends were all "Oh season 1 is terrible but the rest are great!". One can be kind of good/bad on a old Star Trek level, but it's fun.

I personally liked season 5 with the exception of one particular plot arc. It didn't strike me as particularly better or worse than season 4. Also, it contains an episode written by Neil Gaiman, starring Penn and Teller, which is definitely a win.

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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-27 04:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but you liked the sixth season of Buffy.

[grinning, ducking and running]

(By the way, I finally did respond to your response to my response on The Gift. There's something to be said for mailed comment notifications!)
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[User Picture]From: the_siobhan
2006-08-27 05:15 pm (UTC)
The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari and Day of the Dead are definitely worth watching. The rest is pretty much a waste of time.

I hated the last episode.
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[User Picture]From: mistapotta
2006-08-27 05:21 pm (UTC)
I chose cherrypick, but that's mostly for the first part of the season, which you have a good clue of what went on if you watch "Deconstruction of Falling Stars." FWIW, I think you should watch "No Compromises" and "The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari," then skip to "Phoenix Rising," and finish the season from there.
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[User Picture]From: mistapotta
2006-08-27 05:24 pm (UTC)
If you choose this path, look up the episodes, starting from "The Paragon of Animals" on The Lurker's Guide.
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[User Picture]From: kathrynrose
2006-08-27 06:40 pm (UTC)
If you don't finish, you'll wonder. You know you want to watch the last episode, so it wouldn't make sense to skip forward. If you cherry pick, then you'll be relying on other people's opinions to decide what's worth watching, and you risk losing context.

Besides, I'm pretty sure one of my favorite B5 scenes is in season 5, and I'm not enough of a fan-girl to remember which episode it's in.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-27 08:55 pm (UTC)
True.

How's Buffy coming along?
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[User Picture]From: mamaursula
2006-08-27 07:01 pm (UTC)
I chose for you to watch the last episode, but really I don't recall the 5th season, mainly because I sort of stopped watching it. The promise of a 5 season story arc was dashed to the ground when the series was told "Yeah, we know we said 5, but now we're thinking you can only have 4, so wrap it up". So the writers did a bang up job finishing the story arcs in 4 seasons and the ratings went through the roof, so the network said "Hey, this is great, you can have that 5th season after all", so then the writers had to fill in this extra time and space, which is why the 5th season was so limp at times. I've been thinking I would like to watch the series again now too, darn you.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-27 08:56 pm (UTC)
It's worth it. I've been very impressed.
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[User Picture]From: conglacio
2006-08-27 08:04 pm (UTC)
I picked 6, because I am still in season 1, but I wanted to pick 5, because you should see how things turn out at the very least.

Then again, I said that about reading Brian Hurbert's dune books...

If I was Frank, I would disown him.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-27 09:01 pm (UTC)
I did manage to abandon Dune, but one more season of B5 is not quite the same commitment.
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[User Picture]From: zevhonith
2006-08-27 08:17 pm (UTC)
I loathe season 5, but I still own it; Day of the Dead and Sleeping in Light are worth it. Anything involving Byron is not. :P
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[User Picture]From: ysabel
2006-08-28 12:37 am (UTC)
I liked season 5, it's just not nearly as powerful overall as seasons 3 and 4. More on a par with season 1, with a few good high points, and an epilougeish flavour.

Just watch it all. Even the couple of fairly bad eps have their fun moments. Much like season 1. *grin*
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[User Picture]From: sneakingyoda
2006-08-28 04:00 am (UTC)
Ok it isn't my favorite season, but I feel it is worth more than just "finish it out."

I know alot of people hate the fifth season, but I didn't. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed seeing where things went after the shadow war. It's sad without Marcus- tis true- but it's an enitre season of events you shouldn't miss out on. Even if you only view it once.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-28 09:19 am (UTC)
[sad sigh] Marcus....

I'm being convinced.
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[User Picture]From: therrin
2006-08-28 08:00 am (UTC)
Season 5 has some of the most excruciatingly painful scenes to watch in the entire show but it also has some excellent episodes. Season 5 has the only episodes of any TV show that have managed to make me want to cry.

I'd also put a vote in for seeing season 5 as JMS has managed to supposedly secure release for a few Babylon 5 straight to video movies over the next few years. Might as well see what came before them.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-28 09:28 am (UTC)
Good to know. Ferrett is netflixing them for me.
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[User Picture]From: komainu
2006-08-28 02:08 pm (UTC)
Season five is an exercise in frustration, but at least you get to see how it all ends. As opposed, sadly, to how it SHOULD have ended had the network not jerked them around and had Claudia Christian not bailed :(
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[User Picture]From: jadecat
2006-08-28 03:10 pm (UTC)
I'm a completist too. There were some things I liked about the 5th season, a lot I didn't. But I am glad to have seen all the episodes.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-29 01:07 am (UTC)

Re: ((facepalm))

As soon as I saw spoilers, I deleted. Thanks for correcting - I will use this as a reference to avoid the disasters.
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[User Picture]From: laplor
2006-08-29 01:50 am (UTC)
If you don't, you'll always wonder....
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2006-08-29 01:59 am (UTC)
This is probably true, though I never wonder about the last season of The X-Files.
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From: (Anonymous)
2006-08-29 04:40 am (UTC)

Tater

You absolutely have to see it, but it does suck... which is very sad.
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