I'm so glad that I found two people with which I can ramble/rant about For Better or For Worse.
Er...must pack for Seattle now, though. :)
Oh, Ferrett and I both are willing to go on and on....
I'm quickly reaching a point where I read the comic and then say, "Why do you even bother trying to justify what you're doing?" She mentioned in her reasons for ending the strip this year that she's 'lost touch' with today's youth culture. Um...yeah. I know that if I had ended up married to my 'first love' I would probably be in prison for homicide - I had very bad taste in men at 14.
Well apparently now she isn't actually ending it. She'd going to a "hybrid" format - some reruns, some new strips - but "no one is going to age."
Which, one of the reasons I loved the strip was that people grew up and aged? Hello?
I agree with you, the townspeople purposely kept their mouths shut! Good for them!
I look forward to your comments on Anthony. I've always seen him as the "nice guy" friend who never gets any. In real life he would stay that way, Liz would never get with him.
I agree. Anthony is a nice enough guy, but BORING. Why would Liz settle for him when she is head and shoulders above him in almost every way?
2007-01-18 03:52 pm (UTC)
I don't know what draws me to that comic.
Thank you I'll be here all week!
Honestly, Anthony is a complete dweeb. Anyone but Anthony! But I know in the end she will end up with him. How completely boring :P
I was pissed at Paul though. What a jerk to let her spend money on plane tickets when he could have just told her, "Look, I'm not moving down & I'm cheating on you" Then at least he could have saved her some damn money!
Paul was presented in an appalling light - today made it even worse. That makes me sad.
I just love love LOVE how much everyone talks about this. It's the subject of discussion at the place where I work, too.
Personally I agree with everything you've said here. And I hate Anthony with a passion. UGH. I think it was your hubby who linked to an LJ entry about "Why I Hate Anthony Caine", yes?
Sigh. And with the strip ending for the most part in September, DOOM in the form of Anthony/Elizabeth must be coming just around the corner.
The essay on Anthony was shaenon's.
You have compleyely derailed my work day with this distraction. I had forgotten this comic strip even existed. My only question is, where can I find Lynn Johnston's (apparantly incomplete) commentary on the strip.
I also agree compleyely with your analysis. I even saw some of that insight (regarding Paul's originins and attachment to the North country) when I read the comic from the last weeek or so.
There was a hint of it on Monday. I was hoping she'd follow up, but instead she went all cozy visiting. Hence, I wrote.
Only intermittently. I feel lost in a crowd there.
I find Liz completely believable as a cofused girl---The whole attempted rape and following trial was such a stupid plot device to push Anthony and Liz back together--nearly as stupid as the falling down at New years and injuring her knee so Anthony had to save her.
The Paul--well, I totally agree. There was Liz ready to commit--and she left the cold North for better climes at the last minute...that entire village wanted the native son to stay...and the native teacher to stay as well. I think that some of it--the total bevey of males buzzing around Liz just had to be swatted away---and Anthony gets to keep her because he is a stable dull 'nice guy' with a kid even...
It just gets me annoyed...cause I want the helicopter piolet...he's all hot and has a sexy job!
2007-01-18 07:13 pm (UTC)
Re: On anthony and liz
Yes, but you won't get him! Because he was not a childhood sweetheart!!!! Mwahahahaha!
I haven't followed the series since all the now-adults in this soap opera were kids. (Yeah, it's been that long.)
I was wondering, after reading all the various commentaries, if Lynn Johnston has a problem with the idea of a woman doing fine all by herself, without a man, and even *gasp* enjoying it? I know, I'm just a hopeless feminist. :) Am I missing something? Do I need to go back and read 15+ years of the strip to see?
No, you have it about right. People get married to their highschool sweethearts, or it Goes Badly.
Your perspective is so much different from mine, but so valid. I hadn't even considered that whole side of things (ie, why no one told Lizzie), but you are correct about the social and economic problems First Nations people face.
What a great post. I just did a piece of LJ's racism, but I'm going to add a link to this.
2007-01-18 09:27 pm (UTC)
Re: great perspective!
Cool - thanks!
2007-01-18 10:40 pm (UTC)
my personal guess is that the mythical village of Mtigwaki is Inupiak, but I don't recall it ever being specified
Nitpick here: the village is Ojibway; we saw another teacher giving lessons in Ojibway language and culture in October-November, 2004, we saw Ojibway religion and dancing at the powwow in September-October, 2005. Also Paul's mother is Ojibway and his father is Irish. The location of fictional Mtigwaki is even shown on a map at www.fborfw.com, about 100 miles north of Thunder Bay, way too far south to be Inupiat.
I think you're probably on target re the villagers' motivations, at any rate.
2007-01-18 11:40 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't have time to look it up; I figured that someone would know!
...Everyone's complaining about how boring Anthony is, but why isn't anyone bothered by how creepy and self-absorbed he is?? Immediately after Howard assaulted Liz, shaking her and hollering "Wait for me"? Whining about how his wife didn't love the child he guilted her into having?
Anthony is not only a boring dude with an ugly moustache. He's also a needy, creepy bastard with a martyr complex. And all this is supposed to be somehow "sweet."
So yeah, I'm voting for Warren too, but it won't happen.
Anthony has been gutted as a person; I can't imagine a real life woman who wasn't a drama whore getting within miles of him.
But the story that should have been, that's why I wanted her to be with Anthony.
2007-01-19 01:51 pm (UTC)
Liz Likes to Be Manipulated and Other Twisted Stuff
Did you see today's tripe (Jan. 19, 2007)?
It appears that omnipotent narrator LJ has identified Warren as "The One (TM)" for Liz, just as she did with Paul before him (remember Mr. Right/Wright?).
As I posted on my Yahoo! blog (360.yahoo.com/jtoc72) - "Foob Me One, Shame on You; Foob Me Twice..." I am not buying this bullshit. Even if Liz does end up with someone other than Granthony, the thought that it might be with a guy who manipulated her into "catching" Paul cheating just so he could *immediately* catch her on the rebound is just - sick.
In other words, exactly what I have come to expect for LJ lately.
2007-01-19 02:46 pm (UTC)
Re: Liz Likes to Be Manipulated and Other Twisted Stuff
Liz as continual victim.