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Pagan PSA [Jul. 5th, 2008|01:39 pm]
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Many of you have probably already heard about the remark that Kathie Lee Gifford made regarding pagans. But her "apology" is even more appalling. The program segment in which the apology occurs is a painfully trite 11+ minutes of babbling, within which there are two "apologies," each one more insulting than the one before. If you can tolerate watching it all the way to the end, her final remarks are incredibly insulting, remarks that demonstrate an arrogant disregard for anyone who would object to the words tripping from her golden tongue.

If you wish to make your voice heard on this issue, you can call the Today show producer at (212) 664-4249, press 1, and then ask to speak to Jim Bell. Or you can email Today@NBC.com. My only request is that you express your anger in intelligent and polite terms - do not fall to their level of discourse because it only gives them an excuse to disregard our complaints.

Here is the YouTube link to the remarks by Kathie Lee Gifford regarding pagans:


Here is the MSNBC link to the apology:


Feel free to copy and paste this entry to anyone or any group you wish. Attribution appreciated but not required.

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From: wildcelticrose
2008-07-05 05:54 pm (UTC)
I've always thought she was an annoying mindless twat.

I'm sure the videos will be "interesting" viewing.

I will of course refrain from using the term "mindless twat" when I send my email ;)
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[User Picture]From: ladyhawke_wings
2008-07-05 06:02 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: suzieboz
2008-07-05 06:06 pm (UTC)
Anyone who actually listens to Kathie Lee Gifford is stupider than her. Why Frank the love machine didn't drop her plastic surgeried body years ago is beyond me.

I've boycotted the Today Show since they hired her actually. I put her on the same level of Limbaugh and Coulter - the "why are you still here?!?" level.
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[User Picture]From: kathrynrose
2008-07-05 06:18 pm (UTC)
Wait. I watched all 11 nauseating minutes. I never heard her apologize for the comment.
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[User Picture]From: jfargo
2008-07-05 06:22 pm (UTC)
Early on she says (I'm strongly paraphrasing here) "I'll just issue a blanket apology like every week, so to the millions of people I've offended, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
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[User Picture]From: theinfamousmom
2008-07-05 06:21 pm (UTC)
I guess she doesn't really understand what a "Christian apologist" actually is.....
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[User Picture]From: angielabrie
2008-07-05 06:32 pm (UTC)
I think I just threw up in my mouth...and you just totally reinforced why I hate TV and never, EVER watch it; except for movies. And Top Chef. A million monkeys with a million crayons could create something far more interesting and intelligent than anything that Kathy Lee Gifford an pull out her fluffy, igorant, narrow arsehole.
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[User Picture]From: fmh
2008-07-05 07:13 pm (UTC)
I tried to watch the apology Zo, I just couldn't hack it. The conversation they were having was so fucking inane and trivial I was praying for aneurysm...theirs or mine, whatever would make it stop.
The pagan comment was incredibly ignorant though.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2008-07-05 07:53 pm (UTC)
It's amazing that that is what passes for entertainment these days, isn't it?
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[User Picture]From: shezan
2008-07-05 07:19 pm (UTC)
I'll probably be the only one to say you shouldn't get offended at that insignificant comment. Complain to NBC? However you do it, you'll end up sounding like those pressure groups milking a situation for political objectives. At best.
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[User Picture]From: shydescending
2008-07-05 07:40 pm (UTC)
I was thinking the same thing. that was the comment? really, that's it? chalk it up to ignorance, let it roll off, and move on.
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[User Picture]From: rustymarble
2008-07-05 07:25 pm (UTC)
Ok, calling Pagans evil and nasty, that's just her being blantantly ignorant and bigoted (replace Pagans with the N-word...see how long she'd stay on the air). I'm not offended personally, but just chalk it up to yet another moron with way too much time in front of a camera potentially giving her the possibility of power in the us (thankfully, she doesn't seem to have any).

But the "apology" video? OMG, if I was her co-host person, I would have been offended within two minutes! A person of (I'm assuming here) mixed race talking about her hair texture and KL-G says that's a "Flaw"! Yeowch! How about celebrating differences instead of pointing out how much better you think you are than everyone else Miss Holier than thou!

Edited at 2008-07-05 07:26 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2008-07-05 08:00 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was willing to let the initial remark go, but the level of offensiveness in the apology was 10x magnification.
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[User Picture]From: areawoman
2008-07-05 09:33 pm (UTC)
Um...WOW. I thought Kelly Ripa was an idiot, but she's got nothing on this dumbass. I managed to watch the original offense and made a good attempt at watching the apology, but I just couldn't get through it. I am so, so glad that I don't own a TV.
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[User Picture]From: uplinktruck
2008-07-05 09:34 pm (UTC)
The initial remark was ignorance, accomplishing little more then making Ms. Gifford look stupid. Short of yelling fire in a crowed theater, we all have a constitutional right to be just as stupid as we want in our public speech.

It is my feeling that we are too thin skinned in this country. It is a shame that any off handed comment or joke that steps on some politically protected toes results in everything from public apologies to job termination. And this is not limited to just those in highly public positions like network on air talent. The thought police are everywhere these days. Even in the back hallways of industry.

It is about time we, as the collective population of the United States, get our sense of humor back and learn to laugh at our selves again. The first time an overheard joke on a public university campus resulted in formal disciplinary action against the student that told the joke (and those that laughed) was the day I began to wonder if Orwell was a fortune teller.

That is not the world I want to live in.

That said, Ms. Gifford's apology was an insult ranking right up there with a slap in the face. It was obvious from the way her 16 second non-apology was bookended with mindless talk and giggling along with her failure to even mention Pagans by name, that she considered the entire matter a joke that was entirely beneath her.

Better she shouldn't have said anything.

While you are writing, don't forget the mother ship. If there is pressure from the parent company, the network and show producers will be less able to ignore it or sweep it under the rug.

General Electric Corporate can be contacted through an online feedback form located here: https://www.ge.com/contact/contact_form.html

Be sure to mention this matter changed the way you see General Electric as a whole will impact future buying decisions on everything from light bulbs to home appliances to future investment decisions.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2008-07-06 03:24 am (UTC)
I utterly agree with you about the thin-skinned stuff. My initial reaction was to wince and roll my eyes but let it go.

And if you didn't watch until the end, the nasty remarks she concluded with made the apology even more of a slap.
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[User Picture]From: candiedheart
2008-07-05 09:49 pm (UTC)
I think the apology makes the comment even worse than it already was.
The comment was basically an ignorant statement made by an extremely ignorant woman.

However, if you're going to apologize, apologize correctly, and with your heart behind it, or don't apologize at all.
And I think it's right that people are going to be standing up for themselves in this matter.

I personally am not a pagan, but I will be emailing the Today show.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2008-07-06 02:53 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2008-07-06 02:56 am (UTC)
I wish. I have only seen a clip of her once before, and she was almost as inane back then. She continues to be employed, a fact that baffles me entirely,
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[User Picture]From: on_reserve
2008-07-05 11:22 pm (UTC)
In the first clip -- to me, she just sounds stupid - like she didn't know what pagan MEANS. Like she was saying, "the mean nasty HUNS" - or some other "villainous" ancient civilization.

In the "apology" clip she is cloyingly unapologetic -- GROSS.

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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2008-07-06 03:10 am (UTC)
That's why my first inclination was to let it go. It's the nastiness of the "apology" that actually got under my skin.
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[User Picture]From: ser_kai
2008-07-06 06:10 am (UTC)
You're f*cking kidding me.

That's ridiculous.

If I thought they'd listen to an Australian and if I were eloquent enough, I would definitely email.

Edited at 2008-07-06 06:12 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: uplinktruck
2008-07-07 03:11 pm (UTC)
Send it anyway, especially to the General Electric Corporate offices ( https://www.ge.com/contact/contact_form.html ). I think General Electric sells light bulbs and home appliances there. (see above post.)
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