Thank you for this. I may print it out for a few coworkers. :P
It's been banging around in my head for a while. Had to get it out.
May I link on livejournal/facebook/twitter?
Always, but please don't identify me by the name I use on facebook/twitter, just link (family and all).
How do you argue against the morons who come back with "this is an unconstitutional taking of my property, nowhere in the Constitution is that government allowed to make me buy something I don't want."
As long as they support the same right of non-being-bought for people who oppose military spending of tax dollars, then I'd be cool with their objections. Doesn't really change anything, but at least they're consistent.
Alternatively, you could propose that the mandate be done away with in exchange for a tax raise that funds a truly socialized medical system. I bet they'd love that one.
Nice to read something sane about this topic. It puts things in perspective very well.
Excellent way of looking at things. Thank you for writing this.
I'm horribly sad that this attempt to actually FIX health care descended into 'health insurance reform'. As a survivor of the last round of health insurance reform -- the stuff that gave us HIPAA, so that the people involved in trying to provide you care cannot collaborate or tell your family your condition or a thousand other niceties that used to be much easier -- I have huge concerns about this. Further to the issue, the big companies have found (not surprisingly) that it's going to be cheaper for them just to not cover their employees. See http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/
for details on that one. Universal fire protection is looking better and better ...
Believe me, I was not in favor of this version of health care reform. Every time we received calls from the DNC asking for money to support the effort we said no because we didn't like the way it was going.
Unfortunately, it's what we have to work with for now.
It's an apt comparison but...
The problem is, it applies to those of us who have insurance too. I've been refused treatment and put on comfort measures only because a doctor determined my life wasn't worth living (I'm 38, still fairly active, and have a family that loves me --- just how do you determine that?). I've had the devil's own time getting simple things like physical therapy, referral to a surgeon so we can see if anything can even be done about my condition, or for useful things like a motorized chair (try pushing a big manual one around for a day, loading and unloading it off a truck, when you have so many crushed discs in your back that the doctor himself winced).
And this is with a service I pay for.
Now, there are regulations in most places about the closeness of the brush to your home and about storage of incendiaries like oily rags. Just suppose that it's one of those homes which catches fire. I wonder, would they still put it out or would they decide that the person in question deserved to have the house burn?
With health care, it's a lot more clean cut. The prevailing attitude --- with all the doctors I've seen going back into my mid-teens --- is that if you're sick, you did something wrong. Fresh air, good exercise, and food will cure it. If it doesn't, you're doing something wrong. If you say you're doing those things you're a liar. I've dragged nutritionist and dietitian verified food logs to a doctor in an effort to prove that I AM sick, not merely fat (none of my health care issues have anything to do with my weight; they caused the weight gain because I can't move around) and had them dismiss them out of hand. One took my wheelchair and made me crawl into his office because he was so certain I was just too lazy to walk.
When I am assured that it will be truly universal health care --- everyone treated without the doctors playing God and no one deciding that this one or that one is more or less expendable --- I'll be behind it.
Until then, I trim my bushes and keep the hose handy.
That's another HUGE set of issues, and they need to be addressed. The mistreatment you've received is appalling.
As I said elsewhere, I am not a fan of this resolution, I'm just explaining why this version requires these measures.
2010-05-10 04:21 pm (UTC)
Love this... very well written
And a great explanation.
What I would love to see, is that all insurance companies (auto, home, health, life, etc) be non-profit period.
Also, I know from first hand experience, that the more people that pay into the system, the more the cost spreads, and the more affordable it becomes. The fewer people that pay in, the more expensive it becomes, especially if someone in the system has a cataclysmic event, (ie cancer). The entire cost of insuring the group goes up, but if EVERYONE pays for it, then the cost is minimized.
2010-05-10 06:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Love this... very well written
What kind of pinko commie sos'shlist libtard nonsense is this??? I mean, it makes sense and shit. And puts things in perspective of something that all Americans care about -- property ownership.
As far as I'm concerned, the "Republicans" have no right to criticize anyone about anything.
They caused the "Sub-Prime Economic Crime Wave" of 2008 through their blind devotion to Reagan's deregulation fervor, and they led the cheer-leading for the invasion of Iraq.
They had little credibility with me before all this. Now they have none. If they had any sense of shame they would sit down and shut up. (Not that the "Democrats" are blameless in all this, either.)
And they STILL sing the deregulation tune. It astounds me.
Did those homeowners have the option to take out their credit cards or check books and pay outright for fire extinguishing services?
No. There was no way of showing guaranteed funds in time, and no method for volunteer fire fighters to take those funds onsite. And believe me, people offered.
Just a matter of curiosity: did their homeowners insurance refuse payment too, since they had been negligent by not subscribing to the fire service?
I do not know the answer to that. Sorry.
Yes, Fairbanks still has a volunteer fire department. But the coverage is via taxes, not optional subscription. They are two entirely different things.
This is a perfect metaphor. Thank you!
i have never been able to get insurance, with i believe exactly one six-month exception, and i paid through the nose for it. (naturally i did not get sick during that time.) i now have state insurance, which is worse than having NO insurance, because doctors are quite pleasant until i say 'and i'm on basic health' and then they get very, very rude before hanging up on me. i cannot get help no matter how i try. i have applied for insurance; i am turned down for pre-existing conditions. i last had minimal insurance (other than that six months) when i was under 18 and could still get on my mother's insurance.
so i'm all for mandatory health insurance, because i need medical care a lot more than most of the people i know who have really good insurance and maybe get a cold sometimes. i have no idea how i'll pay for it, because i haven't been employed for ten years, but i'm still for it. because it would be really, really nice to go into a hospital and be treated like a human being instead of a steaming pile of shit. i've broken both ankles repeatedly, i've suffered through six months of whooping cough, i paid cash for my tubal ligation, paid in full for my ER trip from my first seizure--didn't go to the hospital at ALL for my second, because what would be the point? they could charge me for a second MRI and tack on a few thousand for the visit itself. mandatory health insurance? i'll beg my family and maybe take up prostitution, but i'll pay the damned fee somehow, because GREAT STARING GODS it would be amazing to have my fibromyalgia treated, my pinched nerves treated, my crippling anxiety treated, and heaven forbid, get antibiotics when i'm desperately ill and coughing blood and neon yellow alien snot babies.
And your health is probably compromised by the care you didn't get. It's a horrible cycle and one we have to break.
Mandatory health insurance does not save our healthcare problem. Health insurers aren't crying when beautiful people don't get care, but they are pocketing the profits of a system that benefits corporations over individuals.
With the elimination of the public option, the premiums are out of reach for many people.
And this new healthcare does not sufficiently cover people who live differently: trans people, people who have religious objections to certain services, people who have personal objections to certain services.
That is my big complaint.
After years without insurance, I finally received premium insurance through my heterosexual marriage. This is a premium HMO through a nationally known provider. It pays 53$ every other year for vision benefits. That small amount is designed to cover an eye exam and a pair of lenses. That's not enough for the doctor to make a living on. And this is what I pay for.
The system is fundamentally flawed. I don't think supporting it with mandatory insurance is the answer.
Trust me, I think this plan is horribly flawed. I'm just explaining why if we're going to do this damned silly thing we have to do it this damned silly way.
I still pray for actual reform.
May I please have your permission to use extensive quotes from this article, with link-backs, in an academic paper on universal health care? It's only BSN level stuff so it'll never see print, I don't think, but still would like your official permission to use it. Please? Thanks!
With credit, certainly. I am flattered!
Insightful, thanks! My goodly hunbun (hubby who is not on LJ) grew up in Anchorage, he said there was something like that for those that lived outside the city limits then (late 70's/early 80's) also.
I'm sure they did. We lived in the Hillside area for a number of years, but by the time we were there, regular fire departments had been established.