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Mosques in Manhattan [Aug. 20th, 2010|01:26 pm]
Zoethe
I know y'all read him, but my sweet baboo really hits it out of the park in his argument for why the Islamic Cultural Center should be allowed to be built in Manhattan.
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[User Picture]From: aiela
2010-08-20 05:34 pm (UTC)
...wait. Your husband has a BLOG?!

(Sorry, I'm feeling silly today.)
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2010-08-20 06:02 pm (UTC)
It's been a big secret up until now. ;-)
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[User Picture]From: dragonsflame71
2010-08-20 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yes it was so freaking awesome to read this morning, especially after the nonsense I later had to deal with.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2010-08-20 06:45 pm (UTC)
I'm still president of his fan club.
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[User Picture]From: ba1126
2010-08-20 06:35 pm (UTC)
Excellent! Thanks for pointing it out!
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2010-08-20 06:50 pm (UTC)
He does good work.
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-08-20 07:15 pm (UTC)
I've been wanting to comment, but so far have nothing better than an AOL "Me, too!"

-Alex
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[User Picture]From: shezan
2010-08-20 07:36 pm (UTC)
No. He's wrong. Allowing an Islamic Center to be built in a building actually damaged by the attack, bearing the name of a conquered Spanish city where the church was razed to build a mosque, sends the powerful message to the extremists AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE "STRONG HORSE" that they have won. They don't think in our parameters - the word "tolerance" doesn't even register. They don't care about the personality of New York. They do not define America the way we do. They think in terms of honor and shame, of victory and defeat. This will not only wound the families of the victims, it will ensure more future American victims.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2010-08-20 08:00 pm (UTC)
And you are framing all of Islam as terrorists. Shame on you.
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[User Picture]From: reynai
2010-08-20 08:21 pm (UTC)
And a large part of me has to answer: So?

If we are forced to second-guess our every public policy decision based on how it will affect how our enemies will view us, then not only have we allowed them to terrorize us (because what is terror but being too afraid to act for fear of the consequences?), but we will also be ineffective because they will just come up with reasons that we hadn't even considered to call their cause a success.
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[User Picture]From: roaming
2010-08-21 12:37 am (UTC)
Sure did! I linked to it in my LJ.

This also, along similar lines.
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[User Picture]From: thanoslug
2010-08-23 06:47 pm (UTC)
And meanwhile the only Christian church to actually be destroyed in the 9/11 attack has been denied permission to be rebuilt in the area. But omgomgomgomgomg we have to build this mosque just 4 blocks from an already existing one.

The people who want to build the mosque are perfectly within their rights to build there. It is in exceedingly poor taste but who cares about the feelings of the 9/11 survivors. They were all probably part of the right wing plot to bring the towers down anyway.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2010-08-23 07:29 pm (UTC)
I didn't hear about a church being denied permission to rebuild. That would be wrong, too.
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-08-23 10:17 pm (UTC)
What, precisely, about it is in poor taste?

-Alex
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2010-08-23 10:36 pm (UTC)
Also, it's a lie. They weren't denied rebuilding, they just weren't given as much money as they wanted:

The authority now says that St. Nicholas is free to rebuild the church on its own parcel at 155 Cedar Street, just east of West Street. The authority will, in turn, use eminent domain to get control of the land beneath that parcel so it can move ahead with building foundation walls and a bomb-screening center for trucks, buses and cars entering the area.

“We made an extraordinarily generous offer to resolve this issue and spent eight months trying to finalize that offer, and the church wanted even more on top of that,” said Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the Port Authority. “They have now given us no choice but to move on to ensure the site is not delayed. The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will pay fair market value for the underground space beneath that building.”

They have had permission to build there for a long time. They just keep asking for more and more from the port authority.
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