This is excellent. May I repost?
Completely and totally this!
I'm not entirely clear on this. What was this promise of which you speak? Was it "We Will Kill Osama Bin Laden"? Because if that's the kind of promise people are going to celebrate the keeping of by dancing in the streets, yes, it's entirely bloodlust, and I would like for people to own up to that, not dress it up as anything else.
It was a promise to find him and bring him to justice, and as my husband said last night, there was no way we were going to be able to take him alive, his own people would have shot him before they'd allow that, and probably on his own orders.
The promise that he wouldn't get away with it. That he was killed instead of captured and tried is in many ways unfortunate. Because I think this celebration would be happening if he was alive and in custody.
But there is tremendous relief that it's over, one way or another. And unless you are willing to say that if someone murdered your family you wouldn't want the government to bother with trying to catch him and would be sad if in the attempt to capture he was killed, then please try to be understanding.
(That being said, I'm not denying that there IS disgusting bloodlust out there - the people who were calling for defiling the body are disgusting and I'm not trying to excuse their behavior in any way. I'm just saying that there is more to it than "entirely bloodlust.")
Actually I think it was better for some that he was killed, because his people are the sorts to kidnap people and hold them hostage, this way that can't happen.
That, and let's be realistic: there's no way in hell we could have had a trial that was anything more than a show trial. Do you really think an empaneled jury would have said "Not Guilty" on him?
I'm all for trials, but I'm for not having show trials.
Do you think the dude who shot him will ever have to pay for a beer again?
I suspect that none of the soldiers involved will be paying for their own beers for a good long time.
While I am against the people dancing in Times Square, I think if I was the guy who shot him I would have taken one of his teeth and wore it around my neck from then on.
Can you imagine how easy it would be to get laid if you had Bin Laden's tooth hanging around your neck?
"Yeah, I took this when I shot Bin Laden in the head" would have to be the most effective pickup line ever.
Yeah, that would definitely be Mission Accomplished!
I kinda figured Special Forces get laid all the time, anyway
I would totally donate to the "buy them a beer" fund.
Well, if they like beer.
I will say that by releasing a press release today to the effect that she's going to make a movie about the assassination of Bin Laden now makes Kathryn Bigelow an even bigger piece of shit than her ex husband.
(Yes, she'd planned such a film for a long time, but really, taking today as an oppourtunity to promote a movie?)
Yeah, that might backfire on her, particularly if she used the term "assassination."
Well the film will be called "Kill Bin Laden."
There's much more judgment in assassinate than in kill.
But we will still celebrate that a promise made to us during a generations-defining moment of grief has finally been fulfilled.
Exactly! And thank you for saying it so eloquently.
Thanks. It took a while to put into words. Feel free to share.
Reposted to FB, with your kind permission.
This is how I feel. Bin Ladin wounded my city; I am glad that he is dead.
I think bin Laden's death does have symbolic significance outside of the US as well. Especially combined with the Arab Spring, and its suggestion that non-violent solutions (or solutions that try to be non-violent) can be far more effective than assymetrical warfare. Really, that last might be the most important, because it makes al Qaeda appear far less relevant.
It gives me hope, y'know?
Now if we can just bolster civil liberties here...
Absolutely awesomely put. Fucking 'A'.
As usual, your words are both appropriate and accurate.
I take issue with your implication that Bush didn't take the pursuit of bin Laden seriously. The courier which led them to the compound was discovered four years ago, far before Obama took office. Maybe you like Obama's politics better (you know I don't), but giving Obama the sole credit and impugning the character of our previous president is unworthy of you. I thought you were better than that.
Bush was the one who said Obama wasn't a priority. He was also the one who came into office wanting to take down Iraq and who overplayed the fear to start a war. I am not backing down from this.
I believe that YOU and some others (perhaps many others)realize all the things in your last two paragraphs. I don't believe that people dancing in the streets like it's a frat party gone viral/flash mob do. I do believe they think "we won! We showed 'em not to frak with the good ol' U S of A, we're BAAAAAD!" I do believe it's an ego thang with those folks. I'd love to be wrong.
In the initial days, yes. But in the long run they get it.
Hey so I just heard a clip of Rush Limbaugh today *effusively* praising Obama for his decision to send special forces in to take out Osama.
In other news hell just froze over in preparation for Osama's arrival...