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Warrior needs help. Badly. [May. 16th, 2011|09:22 am]
Zoethe
I'm struggling with this one, and I hope that someone out there might be able to point me in the right direction.

I need to find an alternate lifestyles friendly psychologist or psychiatrist in the Cleveland area.

I don't have the energy to go into details right now, but if you know of someone you can recommend, please let me know. Anonymous comments allowed, if you don't want your name associated with your response. Thanks!
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[User Picture]From: bart_calendar
2011-05-16 01:35 pm (UTC)
Not your city, I know, but Polychromatic lists one in Columbus and one in Cincinnati. It might be worth calling one or both of them up and see if they can refer you to someone in Cleveland.

http://www.polychromatic.com/pfp/main.php?1=1&limit=50&page=8
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 02:01 pm (UTC)
Thanks; if no one comes up with a local recommendation I will definitely be trying that. I worry that people get themselves on the list because they are willing to tolerate such things and it's a way of getting more patients through the door. I know at least one person who went to a "alt friendly" counselor and spent all her time either educating the person or resisting heteronormative advice.
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[User Picture]From: bart_calendar
2011-05-16 02:06 pm (UTC)
I'm sure decent ones are out there.

My shrink is super kink/alt lifestyles friendly.

Hell she's given me reading assignments from Leopold von Sacher-Masoch and de Sade.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 02:22 pm (UTC)
You have the advantage of living in France rather than the Midwest. ;-)

But, yes, I will pursue this.
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[User Picture]From: bart_calendar
2011-05-16 02:27 pm (UTC)
You might want to ask potential shrinks if they are Lacanian because that philosophy is particularly kink friendly.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 03:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
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[User Picture]From: cyan_blue
2011-05-16 01:43 pm (UTC)
Also google on the kink aware professionals list and the bisexuality aware professionals directory.

Failing that... Contact the local LGBT, poly, and/or kinky orgs for recommendations. You didn't say which alternative sexuality you were wanting the professional to be knowledgeable in, but there is often overlap among the groups, at least in open mindedness. Get a few names and interview them over the phone as to their level of knowledge and tolerance wrt the given sexual preference.

*hugs*
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 01:53 pm (UTC)
I want someone who can look at "pagan, bisexual, and polyamorous" and not regard those as things that need treatment. Contacting the local LGBTQ group is a good idea. Thanks.
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[User Picture]From: cyan_blue
2011-05-16 01:58 pm (UTC)
Also, if you find someone who is open minded but not educated about poly, point 'em to my article here:

http://www.numenor.org/~gdw/psychologist/bipolycounseling.html
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 02:14 pm (UTC)
I'm definitely bookmarking that for reference. Thanks!
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[User Picture]From: tormentedartist
2011-05-16 10:09 pm (UTC)
I think that a psychoanalyst would think that the pagan part would be the one that would need treatment. Most psychologist are atheist or at least that is what I get from my psych classes. Honestly I flirt with the idea of getting into psychology because I've been told that I'm a good listener. And I think that I'd be good at dealing with kinky people and not judging them. I also think that anyone who has studied pychology would realize that bisexuality is probably pretty common. Even if its just latent in most people.

However I do think that for some people( not yourself) their life styles might cause them problems.

I would also say that a lot of psych professions would most likely be the kinkiest of people. But then again I don't know since I've never visited a counselor.

Anyway good luck finding what you are looking for. And I'm sending good vibes your way.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-17 12:00 am (UTC)
Having known at least one person who spent therapy time defending the happy patrts of her life against traditional values, I am skittish. And thanks.
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[User Picture]From: moominmuppet
2011-05-17 12:08 am (UTC)
Marty Coen, LISW. She's mine, and she's fabulous.
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[User Picture]From: moominmuppet
2011-05-17 12:10 am (UTC)
Marty Coen Psychotherapy Assoc
(216) 721-1407

12429 Cedar Rd Ste 2
Cleveland, OH 44106
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-17 12:24 am (UTC)
Thank you! I will call her.
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[User Picture]From: pachamama
2011-05-16 01:48 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 01:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, no one listed within 100 miles. Though I may try calling the Columbus one and see if they can refer.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 04:20 pm (UTC)

Re: Maybe I just lucked out, but just in case...

Wow, sounds awesome. I hope I'm as fortunate!
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[User Picture]From: kyburg
2011-05-16 04:52 pm (UTC)
I had to say something. I'm aghast. I've got nurses, social workers, educators - and me - in the family, and this is something we all knew about, took in stride and so on. Like, in the seventies? I know, I know, California born and bred, but holy merde. COME ON.

That said - the Feelinggood.com website referral page points to the Beck Institute, and drilling down? I find:

Edwin R. Shirley Ph.D.
Founding Fellow
University Hospitals of Cleveland
Mood Disorder Program
11400 Euclid Avenue, Suite 200
Cleveland, Ohio
44106
USA
Phone: 216.844.2400
Fax: 216.844.2877

This is the cognitive approach that I favor over just about everything else, because it works for me. Mileage may vary with everyone else, yadda ya.

But I want to know if you run into issues - because Mamma may just go smack a bitch if you do.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 05:00 pm (UTC)
It's pretty bad out here. But I am getting a couple leads. Thanks!
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 06:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks; I expect it to be challenging, to say the least....
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[User Picture]From: cinema_babe
2011-05-16 05:51 pm (UTC)
Not sure if this will help but.... my therapist wasn't super familiar with alt lifestyles but I spent our first meeting interviewing her about her attitude and knowledge. I generally do this with health professionals.

It can be a way or weeding out the ones who not only don't but *won't* get it.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 06:08 pm (UTC)
I am shooting for the ideal first, and then will work on the possible. Thanks! ;-)
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[User Picture]From: brujah
2011-05-16 07:21 pm (UTC)
I was going to suggest the Kink Aware Professionals link, but I see that it's already been covered. So, I will just tell you that I love you.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-16 09:26 pm (UTC)
Thank you, dear. It's much appreciated.
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[User Picture]From: flirtaciousj
2011-05-17 04:40 am (UTC)
No recommendations here, but definitely *hugs*
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-17 05:33 am (UTC)
Thanks so much.
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[User Picture]From: xhollydayx
2011-05-18 05:00 am (UTC)
Dr Robert Chapman in Lakewood (Saturdays a few hours in Cleveland Heights). 216-228-3500

He is a psychologist. If he is not what you are looking for, he has been pretty good about finding others. I see him, and think he's great. A friend wanted a female who was experienced with certain tihngs, and he found someone outside of his practice that she has been happy with.
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From: anonymousalex
2011-05-19 05:16 pm (UTC)
I don't have any helpful or useful information, but I must say, what are they teaching these people in the schools? Don't they know that people seeking therapy aren't likely to have enough spare spoons to argue over what isn't their problem?

I hope the useful information you have gotten will lead to an acceptable person who helps you.

-Alex
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2011-05-19 05:52 pm (UTC)
I have phone calls out and am keeping my fingers crossed. And the monogamy/heteronormativity model is very frustrating.
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From: anonymousalex
2011-05-19 07:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah. "So then I went to the supermarket, and it's not because we're polyamorous, and bought some lettuce for a salad."

I'm tired just thinking about it.

-Alex
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