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Libertarians, today's the day to show your true colors [Nov. 5th, 2013|09:18 am]
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It's voting day. The big issues that will impact Ferrett and me are increases in local income taxes. The extra money is needed to fill the shortfall in services already being provided by our local government, which provided very good budget numbers to explain where the money was going.

I will be voting in favor of the two issues that will bump up my tax burden. And then watching to see if the local libertarian vote does the same. If not, then I call shenanigans on the bunch of you.

Libertarianism is allegedly about bringing the cost of government back to the local community, and the cost of caring for the needy back to private charity. But too often I see it translated to "It's MY money, and I shouldn't have to pay for anything!" I've literally seen self-described libertarians say, "Why should I give anything to charity?" and "I don't use any government services, why should I pay for them?"

That's not a political philosophy; that's solipsistic greed gone awry. Every day, every one of us benefits from government services, whether they be local, state, or federal. From the street you drive on to the safety of the food you put in your mouth, the government is involved. Most of these benefits are so taken for granted that the fact of government involvement is invisible to us.

Many people will be voting on local tax issues today. And I'm not saying that every tax hike or bond issue is automatically a good idea just because it's local. Last year I voted against a school bond issue for construction at our local high school because I thought the project was excessive and poorly designed. But if you are only voting against local issues because they will take some money out of your pocket, then you are doing libertarianism wrong.
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[User Picture]From: throbinson
2013-11-05 02:38 pm (UTC)

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Agree x 286465121923. I know that there are actual Libertarians out there, somewhere, but too many people equate that label with "leave me alone, that's MY money".

I haven't voted yet, plan to do so on the way home from work today, but we have a county meals tax issue on the ballot. We get election junk mails from both ends of the spectrum, since my husband and I are fairly opposite in political outlook. The Tea Party and the Republicans say the meals tax would be Of De Debbil. I'm inclined to vote Yes for it, simply because it would make the county equal with the nearby city, which already has a meals tax. Then all the county eateries would have to quit going neener neener neener...

Our gubernatorial election is the hot topic around here. We've got a super-right winger vs. a Democrat who is somewhat unsavory due to some business dealings, and then a Libertarian in the mix who seems like a nice enough guy but hasn't a prayer of doing anything except fouling up the election for (one hopes) the right wing nutjob. As much as I feel like voting for "none of the above" by avoiding the polls, I refuse to forfeit my bitching rights.
[User Picture]From: zoethe
2013-11-05 02:50 pm (UTC)

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Sales tax still irks me, because I grew up in Oregon, but I know it's just a kneejerk reaction.
[User Picture]From: rialian
2013-11-05 03:18 pm (UTC)

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===Yep. My bet is, sadly, that they will vote against infrastructure.
[User Picture]From: stormgren
2013-11-05 06:41 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, the problem is that the Randites took over libertarianism a while ago, and make the rest of us who lean that way look bad.

All of my complaints are usually at the federal level, but I will almost always vote to support local infrastructure, because that social contract is with my direct neighbors, and supporting that is what builds communities.
[User Picture]From: zoethe
2013-11-05 08:38 pm (UTC)

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I respect that you vote for local infrastructure. I think that much of the libertarian ideal is extremely naive, but I respect your voting local.
[User Picture]From: tormentedartist
2013-11-05 07:44 pm (UTC)

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Ayn Rand would call you a leech. But I call you fucking intelligent...you somehow didn't catch the short sightedness that afflicts many Americans. Even ones that are smart enough to know better.
[User Picture]From: zoethe
2013-11-05 08:39 pm (UTC)

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Ayn Rand was an idiot.
[User Picture]From: dana3
2013-11-11 10:23 am (UTC)

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Delighted to see that the issues -- safety net, infrastructure -- that mattered to me all passed. We were #s 25 and 26 at our polling place; even on an off year, there were important things to decide. Council at Large in Our Little Town, for one thing!

Long ago, a friend described his politics as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative". The older I get, the more I resemble that remark. :)