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[Jul. 30th, 2004|10:54 am]
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Today's WTF moment.

Apparently, cell phone usage is much more dangerous to your health than you'd think. Yeah, it's rude to talk on the cell phone in a theatre, but it sounds like this cop was looking for a shot at somebody. If you read all the way down, there appears to be independent confirmation of the kids' story.

And macing people in the lobby? Um, issues much, dude?

[User Picture]From: servermonkey
2004-07-30 03:06 pm (UTC)
I wonder if the cop said, "I told U I wuz hardc0re," to the couple afterwards.
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[User Picture]From: ladyortyger
2004-07-30 03:19 pm (UTC)
Ho.Lee. Crap. That is ... *Growls*

Reminds me of a thing I read yesterday... an Asian photographer getting followed and detained several times for taking pictures of a landmark (just like dozens of other tourists around her) for a photography class.

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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-07-30 03:28 pm (UTC)
That is just appalling. Wow.

Osama Bin Laden won after all.
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[User Picture]From: ziggy_prime
2004-07-30 03:25 pm (UTC)

A long time ago...

When I was young, there was an incident at a friends house that caused a large group of kids to assemble outside with air rifles. First, the dispatcher told me that air rifles "weren't real weapons," and then, when the officer arrived, he took everyones names, including me and my friend, who had been in the house, and told us all that if he found any of us outside he would "run us in on a felony."

When I protested being told this, as I was the one that called him out, I was told, "Get lippy with me, boy, and I can take you in right now."

For every good cop, there is a cop on the edge. It is a rough job that brings with it emotional detachment. But, like war veterans, sometimes they need a bit of help.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-07-30 03:44 pm (UTC)

Re: A long time ago...

Too much testosterone, man.
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[User Picture]From: ldygwynedd
2004-07-30 03:37 pm (UTC)
This cop went too far.

But the chick who was on the phone for a "minute" was out of line. She should have taken the call outside of the theatre.

She said people around her weren't complaining but a lot of times people won't speak up but the discussion disturbs them anyway.

Still, the police officer was a jerk.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-07-30 03:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm not disputing that she shouldn't have taken the call in the theater. That's rude. But the guy seemed to be looking for someone to lean on.
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[User Picture]From: phoenixgeisha
2004-07-30 03:40 pm (UTC)
We used to go to movies in that theatre when W and I lived there. It's in an upscale part of town in a plaza with stores I can't afford to shop at, and restaurants like Dan Marino's Steakhouse. In other words, this is not a theatre that has a history of disenfranchised young people causing problems and disturbing the peace (unless things have changed HORRIBLY in the year since I left).

I can not IMAGINE what prompted the cop's behaviour.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-07-30 03:42 pm (UTC)
Maybe he couldn't find a dog to kick....

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[User Picture]From: tallizen
2004-07-30 03:42 pm (UTC)
i wonder if this can be a lawsuit agaist the police for unlawful use of force.. Pepper spray is not kind stuff and there was no reason to spray the person he was not attacking just walking out of the theater ...
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-07-30 03:43 pm (UTC)
I would certainly consider it, if it had been me. I have a friend whose mother was brutalized by the cops in California, and she went after them.
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[User Picture]From: fieryfae469
2004-07-30 03:53 pm (UTC)
Another example of the Patriot Act taking our rights away. Cops with way way way too much authority. I always called cops like those, having a bit too much of the "Barney Fife" syndrome. (for those who remember Mayberry) hehe

That article about the incident in Seattle. That is just so disturbing.
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[User Picture]From: apostate_96
2004-07-30 03:59 pm (UTC)
Jesus Christ.... Yeah, I'd say that guy's got issues. Sounds like the current-decade equivalent/incarnation of Rodney King went to the movies and ran into the wrong cop....again. Enough other people saw enough of what happened there that it seems pretty clear to have been a case of police brutality and criminal assault.

The real question now is going to be how the police department there responds to this. If they're smart, they'll hand that cop his ass. If not, then it could really spark off something ugly....
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[User Picture]From: hel_ana
2004-07-30 04:30 pm (UTC)
'k.. I'm going to disagree a bit..

I'm from St. Petersburg, and I've been to the theatre in question.

There is *also* independent evidence (from a witness statement made by one of the theatre's ushers) that the reason he got sprayed was because he threatened the cop. *She* got sprayed (according to the usher) because she used that opportunity to smack the cop in the back of the head with her soda.

Basically, the cop was asked by an usher to go into the theatre, because someone was using a laser pointer. He was looking for that person when the woman took the call. Reports vary about how long that call took. The police report states that her first response was "I can talk on the phone as much as I want".

He asked them to leave and told them he'd get them their money back. Then the events outside occured.

The young man who was arrested is not quite the boy scout he presents himself as. He has both juvenile and adult convictions.

This was a very early story, and more details came out later. The arrest report is available at the Smoking Gun.
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[User Picture]From: lothie
2004-07-30 04:39 pm (UTC)
Here's the story from The Smoking Gun:


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[User Picture]From: cubes
2004-07-30 05:23 pm (UTC)
I see that someone else has already followed up with the later reports that told at least some of the other side of the story (I'm another local).

It's disappointing to me how many people immediately jump on the "bad cop" bandwagon after reading only one side of the story. Sure, there are bad cops, but they're not ALL bad. Most of them (at least most that I've encountered) really are out there to get the bad guys. They're willing to put their lives on the line to protect the rest of us, and when one of them tries to protect himself (according to the cop and other witnesses, including friends of the "victims") this is the response he gets. The area where this took place isn't the best part of town. Florida has pretty easy handgun laws, and shootings are not uncommon in St. Pete.

Put yourself in the cop's shoes for just a moment. You've got a troublemaker, who could easily be carrying a concealed handgun, defending (in his mind) his girlfriend, and threatening you. You have a split second to make a decison, and the wrong one could end your career... or your life. Would YOU make the right choice? Would you make decisions that would stand up to the scrutiny of the public and the press, when they have the ability to sift through facts you couldn't even have known at the time? That's what these guys do every day.

We do need to get rid of bad cops, but we need to be careful how we define that.
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[User Picture]From: cubes
2004-07-30 05:27 pm (UTC)
Woops, the firend of the victim agreed with her; it was the theater usher whose story agrees with the cop's.

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[User Picture]From: poobah103
2004-07-30 05:33 pm (UTC)
I don't mean to cheapen their experience or anything, but I don't see why they're complaining. After all, they were there to see *Catwoman*.... next to that, is a little mace really that bad?
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-07-30 05:34 pm (UTC)
Best point of the day!
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