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And this is just frickin' wrong, too [Oct. 16th, 2004|09:11 pm]
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Damaging Republican Headquarters by breaking in, stealing equipment, etc. It's wrong that it was done, it's wrong that it wasn't publicized. If it had been Democratic headquarters, I'm sure there would have been "shades of Watergate" stories all over.

Wrong is wrong. Fucking with the system damages integrity. This needs to stop.

[User Picture]From: lyssabard
2004-10-17 02:01 am (UTC)

Not so much fucking with it but...

Personally, it all reads to me as signs of the system breaking down.
And I know I sound like a doomsayer, herald of the fall of Rome, and all that, but...there's some truth to cycles, and I think there will be or needs to be some sort of snapping point, some limit that forces a change to occur.

That is, if it can overrule the generations of institutionized apathy that have been indoctrinated into the masses.

I don't know.


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[User Picture]From: greybeta
2004-10-17 03:28 am (UTC)
This makes me wonder who the real terrorists are...
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[User Picture]From: culculhen
2004-10-17 04:17 am (UTC)
If all this is true I'm very very happy indeed with my countries boring way of goverment, I used to like the Usa elections for their exitement and the feeling of that being so much at stake, my own country goverment is based on powersharing and agreement wich makes it usually a bit boring and predictable. but with this presidential election everybody is going over the top. I hope everbody is going back to normal after the elections.
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[User Picture]From: interactiveleaf
2004-10-17 05:13 am (UTC)
I don't think it was 'official,' any more than the Weathermen's activities were 'official.' The word 'Watergate' implies organized wrongdoing from the top down, and I just don't see that in the random acts that were listed in the article.

But then again, maybe I'm just not cynical enough.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-10-17 12:49 pm (UTC)
I'm not saying that it was official, simply that the spectre would be revisited.
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From: noumignon
2004-10-27 08:02 am (UTC)
The word 'Watergate' implies organized wrongdoing from the top down, and I just don't see that in the random acts that were listed in the article.

Neither do I. The article is irresponsible in using a hypothetical question to imply a coordinated campaign when it advances no evidence to support that conclusion. "To ask it a bit differently...if the good patriots from FreeRepublic.com coordinated a national campaign to vandalize Kerry-Edwards headquarters, would the media fluff this as benign random occurrences?" Well, no. But if they did it spontaneously as individuals, would the media run unsupported speculation that it was being organized by the Bush campaign?

Well, maybe they would. Remember all those church burnings that turned out to be random, but got reported as a story. But I think this is more along the lines of "the other campaign is rooting up our lawn signs" story that always comes around election time.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-10-27 11:04 am (UTC)
I think shooting at buildings and breaking and entering are a bit more serious than stealing lawn signs, though that is wrong, too.

And I'm not saying it is like Watergate, just that a break-in to Democratic headquarters someplace would have reporters making that comparison. Certainly it's just random stupidity, but it's still wrong.
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[User Picture]From: dream_labyrinth
2004-10-17 02:34 pm (UTC)
You're right, this is terribly wrong. And those who are doing these things obviously don't realize that they are doing the republicans a favor. And if it isn't publicized in any other place than this article (whose tone I didn't like at all, especially the completely unnecessary hits against UN election supervisors), that's even worse. Because it'll just give the Republicans pity points.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-10-17 09:13 pm (UTC)
I wasn't fond of the article itself, but regretably it was the only source I could find on the topic that didn't require a paid membership. Any news stories about it had already expired, if they existed at all, and the only reason I knew about it was that Ferrett mentioned that he had read an article on Salon.com, to which he has a membership.

All of these attacks, whether against Democrats or Republicans are misguided attempts to influence the system. The system has to be allowed to work on its own, or it breaks.
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From: flense
2004-10-18 01:17 pm (UTC)
That's right. Folks need to been less damn lazy and break into and ransack both. Christ, makes it look like some kind of partisan bias.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2004-10-18 01:23 pm (UTC)
There, that'd fix it!

Between destruction of Democratic voter registration and the tossing of Republican office places, we aren't exactly holding up as the shining example of Democracy, are we?
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From: flense
2004-10-18 02:08 pm (UTC)
Right, there needs to be more equality. Perfect balance. Republican voter regs need to be destroyed and Democratic offices need to be trashed.
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From: noumignon
2004-10-27 08:18 am (UTC)
If it had been Democratic headquarters, I'm sure there would have been "shades of Watergate" stories all over.

On double standards, this reminds me that Nixon's dirty tricks and CIA guys were burglarizing the offices of antiwar parties and infiltrating political groups way before Watergate. It was only when his activities encroached on the territory of the powerful that they became something taken seriously. I bet some Democrats are doing things like these to Nader offices and they just don't have the media to tell us about it.
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