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Puzzle pieces that won't fit together [Sep. 1st, 2005|12:43 pm]
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FEMA has suspended boat rescue operations because it is too dangerous for the workers.

Acadia Ambulance has suspended its helicopter evacuation of the sick from the Superdome because shots were fired at a chopper.

St. Louis police are being pulled off search and rescue to deal with the increasingly aggressive and hostile looters, including some who attacked a hospital.

Buses are having trouble getting to the Superdome because of arson fires set around it.

New Orleans is being evacuated. My question is, taking all the previous facts into account, how? The answer appears to be, it's not. After two days of concerted effort, less that 1/10th of the people sheltered in the Superdome have been moved to the Astrodome.

"Bad" doesn't even begin to encompass the situation down there. I can't even fathom.

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[User Picture]From: servermonkey
2005-09-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
My wife's the same way.

She can't watch any more.
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[User Picture]From: kenp_v3
2005-09-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
This is turning into something worse than I ever could have imagined when I heard a hurricane was heading towards New Orleans.
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[User Picture]From: kmg_365
2005-09-01 05:04 pm (UTC)
Imagine if New Orleans had taken a direct hit, and the hurricane had remained a category five.
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From: stevietee
2005-09-01 05:01 pm (UTC)
I hate feeling so helpless!
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[User Picture]From: kmg_365
2005-09-01 05:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, it is getting really, really bad down there. Did you see my post from this morning? Some guy shot his sister in the head, killing her, over a bag of ice.

Shot and killed his sister over a bag of fucking ice!! Although it is difficult to relate to the dire straits these people are in, I cannot imagine myself killing my sisters for any reason. Share the goddamn ice, you selfish ass.

The looters have raided nursing homes, too. I wonder how many of the medical "necessities" stolen from the hospitals, nursing homes, and pharmacies include valium and similar drugs. Not only do the hospitals have to fear gun-toting thugs rushing their building, they have to worry that their supplies won't be delivered because helicopters won't land and trucks are being hijacked.

They need to aggressively bring control to the area. Easier said then done, of course. How do you reign in that kind of activity from such desparate people? Where would you put them if you decide to "imprison" them? Imagine the uproar if the police and national guard starting shooting back?

But seriously, if we want the answer to all these peoples' problems, we need look no further than Michael Wilbon's article in the Post today. Sure, you've lost everything. You have no home. No possessions at all. No food. No water. No toilets or showers. I know just the thing to perk you up.

Food? Nah.

Shelter? Fuck that!


Yes, football. Collegiate or professional, it doesn't matter. The almighty pigskin will make you forget your problems and bring a glimmer of hope to your life.
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[User Picture]From: pleepleus
2005-09-01 07:54 pm (UTC)
Imagine the uproar if the police and national guard starting shooting back?

I sadly believe that this will happen within the weekend. :( Take the food, fine, it will go bad anyway, need a pair of shoes, take them, baby food? Fine.

But this mob mentality, "We run this city now" thing *must* be stopped. There is a complete understanding that many will be shell-shocked and not necessarily in control of themselves (such as the man who killed his sister over ice. No sne person would do that) But, there is no excuse for the utter disposal of human decency, concern and a sense of community involvement that is happening.

IMO, if those gun toters are close enough to rob the aid workers, they are close enough to lay down their weapons and HELP with the releif work that must be done to save those who are still trapped, sick, dying in an attic somewhere as I type this entry. :(
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From: (Anonymous)
2005-09-01 05:03 pm (UTC)
Do you know of any sites that will let you donate from a debit card?? It wasn't an option on that userfriendly red cross site, and I'm having trouble finding someplace credible to donate to.
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[User Picture]From: kmg_365
2005-09-01 05:07 pm (UTC)
It is possible that the Relief Concert will have call-in numbers for making donations. Those would have to take debit/credit cards.
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[User Picture]From: tygher
2005-09-01 05:36 pm (UTC)
What astounds me is that these people that are doing the shooting, the looting, setting the fires ... these are people they're -trying- to help. It boggles the mind that people can be so ignorant.

That said .. I don't know what they're going through. It must be incredibly difficult to cope with what has happened. But .. still.
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[User Picture]From: avatar
2005-09-01 05:42 pm (UTC)
Take a look at this - the New Oreleans blog.

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[User Picture]From: rhapsody_98
2005-09-01 05:43 pm (UTC)
I was about to link to him, too.
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[User Picture]From: ohhjuliet
2005-09-01 05:49 pm (UTC)
I cannot begin to fathom how the people who are shooting, looting and lighting fires are even conceiving to think of doing so.
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[User Picture]From: fujerica
2005-09-01 06:19 pm (UTC)
I don't even get it. There's nothing that makes sense about any of it.
It just... I just... I want to scream and freak out and here I am in miserable little hellhole KY but at least I have power and food and water. I know where my family is.

And you know what? If I were in that area, I'd be walking as far as my tired, starved body could take me. I'd rather die while making every attempt to save my own life than perish while waiting for something non-existant.

I want to go hug my kids now. NOW.
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[User Picture]From: cynicalcleric
2005-09-01 07:04 pm (UTC)

If I were in that area, I'd be walking as far as my tired, starved body could take me.

There was a picture on the cover of a local newspaper that showed a woman and someone else pleading at passing Army trucks.

The thing was, they had a small boat (it looked like a large canoe or kayak) and it looked like they had paddles too. Take some initiative: paddle over the Superdome, ask someone there running things where you should go, and paddle accordingly across Lake Katrina to some loading point if thats where they want you to go.
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[User Picture]From: cynicalcleric
2005-09-01 06:52 pm (UTC)

to deal with the increasingly aggressive and hostile looters

Martial laws has been declared, right? Send in armed troops with orders to arrest looters and shoot looters who resist arrest or who shoot back. Sweep the city. Treat it like a fucking warzone. The place is wrecked and there are armed hostiles so its not far from the truth.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-09-01 08:35 pm (UTC)

Re: to deal with the increasingly aggressive and hostile looters

I don't think they have gone so far as orders to shoot hostiles, and where do you put the people you arrest?
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From: (Anonymous)
2005-09-01 07:14 pm (UTC)
And now patient evacuations have been suspended because they came under sniper fire.


As in, not somebody standing right there, not a frustrated would-be looter, but someone who had to say, "Hey, you know what would be fun? Shooting at doctors and sick people from a distance."

That is some seriously fucked-up shit, there. I'm with cynicalcleric: send in the troops, in force, and have them shoot back if needed. Shoot Americans? No. Shoot the animals who are running amok. The ones who are helping each other, who are trying to make things better instead of worse-- those are the Americans.

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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-09-01 08:53 pm (UTC)
I agree. We should have a huge force of National Guardsmen fully equipped in the area.

Oh, wait. They're all in Iraq, fighting a war.
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[User Picture]From: intelligentrix
2005-09-02 08:18 pm (UTC)

It's not fear or desperation

The thing people don't seem to understand about the people shooting at rescuers and setting fires and going house to house terrorizing those few people who managed to survive is that they DON'T CARE. They don't care that other people are dying, they don't care that their actions are hurting the rescue, they don't even care that they might be killed in return. In fact, this is one of the reasons they don't care: they don't care about their own lives. I've seen them, I've had them in my cab, I've had their mothers and neighbors and teachers telling me how these people aren't human anymore, how they cannot be taught or reasoned with, how they are devoid of compassion. And I'm not talking about white people talking about black people. New Orleans is 68% black. The mayor, the police, the ambulance drivers, the nurses and doctors, the relief workers, and the fire-fighters are majority black. The people who are most vocal about the depravity of the monsters in their midst are the people who live in the projects and the poor neighborhoods with them, the decent, good, kind people who are just trying to get out, who also happen to be black. This is not about race, this is about the culture of death that these people embrace. They don't care if they die, as long as they get to have a Hummer with gold rims before they go.

I wish I was exagerating. I really really wish I was. But three weeks ago, at five-o-clock in the afternoon, a young mother and her 7 year-old daughter were shot in the head about five blocks from my house, and later that same evening 2 more people were gunned down not far away.

I love my city, I mourn and I rage and I can't stop crying. But I am honest enough to know there are these animals, these amoral predators who thrived in it and who now see the city as theirs. I have always been a pacifist, I believe the war we wage in Iraq is amoral and illegal, but I don't think the National Guard has any choice but to shoot to kill in dealing with this situation. And I won't shed any tears over them at all. I save my tears for every patient who couldn't be airlifted from the hospitals because of the sniping, for every baby who dies because the truck carrying food and water was hijacked, for all the people whose incomprehensible misery is increased even the slightest by these soul-less criminals.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2005-09-02 09:44 pm (UTC)

Re: It's not fear or desperation

You know, I keep being reminded of zombie movies when I hear about the nature of these attacks. Maybe that's not far off.
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