i got a ticket in DC once from a photo-camera thingie. set me back a hundred bucks, but on the plus side (relatively speaking), such a ticket cannot result in points on your license.
I suppose it makes me sad because we trust machines way too much.
That and I like to go 5 over- like everyone else.
I will be curious to see what they are set at. I can't imagine that they won't give us 5 over. But my happily spinning along at 70 days are coming to an end.
This is going to be problematic: I'm a speed limit-as-guideline type of driver, and on my commute, I'll hit either:
Chester at Euclid, Chester at 71st Street, Chester between E. 55th & E. 40th
Carnegie at E. 30th, Carnegie @ E. 100th, and possibly E. 55th at Carnegie
I've spotted the ones on Chester at Euclid and 71st, but will have to look for the rest now. Thanks for the heads up, and I'll have to hope that a ticket isn't already winging my way. :-(
Yeah, as soon as I saw this I knew I had to give a heads-up! Glad to help!
The have these in DC - both speeding cameras and red light cameras. My friend sent me a URL to a website featuring the back of his car, and a close-up of his license plate. It informed him of his speed and told him it was just a warning.
Kind of scary how clearly they were able to capture - and isolate - his car.
I find the speeding cameras somewhat dubious - how can they guarantee that it was your car that was speeding, and not the one in front of you?
Dunno. But at least they can't assess points, since they can't prove who was driving beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yeah, but the $ can add up over time.
There was a bit of a "scandal" around here regarding the red light cameras. Something about the manufacturer guaranteeing DC a specific revenue amount year to year.
They were discussing the east-side/west-side camera issue on Lannigan and Malone on WMJI a few weeks ago. Apparently, those on the east-side are trying to make it a racial thing. I figured that they put more cameras up there because the bulk of people traveling into Cleveland to go to work come from places east of Cleveland.
They litter the country over here (UK). There are so many now, nowhere is safe. There was such a hue and cry because they were 'hidden' that they have all been painted bright yellow so that people can see them as they approach. But it's amazing how many are stuck just on a bend, or slightly out of sight.
"No! We aren't doing it to coin in the revenue - we are doing it for the safety of the public." Yeah, right.
New cameras were put over a local bus lane just over a year ago. The local council have earned £1 million in one year (that's right, one million pounds) from people driving into the bus lane. Never mind that it's stopped people from visiting local shops in the high street, so long as the council are earning revenue. Sorry - I know that that is a separate issue, but I'm aggravated by it.
In the US, I'd say the local shops should sue for lost business... It's been known to happen here. But I'm not sure if you can sue the government in the UK can you?
Sorry - your response to my comment has only just come in!!!
We can sue the Government but it would be easier to sue the local council since they instigated the cameras. There have been any number of complaints and I think there has been a compromise reached for parking near the shops, but I don't know if it's working.
Denver also has speeding cams and red light cams. The red light cams are easy to spot, but the speed cams are not. I'm glad I no longer have to communte to and from my previous job anymore. It was too easy getting a ticket without the cams.
I saw "East Side West Side", and my brain started singing, and I'm afraid that "Security Cameras of Cleveland" just isn't as poetic as "Sidewalks of New York."
That is all.
Having had to do the commute from I-71 to both the Clinic and UH, I am delighted to see the cameras going up along that route (affecting both Chester and Carnegie). Going 5 over damn near got me run over more than once -- and that in the 6:30 am on a weekend timeslot!! Hate to think what happens over there during a standard workday.
I've seen *bad* drivers everywhere, but I've never seen so many *oblivious* drivers as I have in Cleveland. It's kind of amazing. I just wish they'd find a camera to get the ubiquitous dyed-blonde-with-roots who is talking on the phone while speeding while putting on her makeup while changing her CD or the radio station. THOSE are the people I figure need to be fined off the road ... oh wait, that would require more cameras up in the Heights and Beachwood, now wouldn't it? Hmmm ...
Thanks for the heads up!
I do have to admit that Cleveland drivers seem a particularly clueless bunch. Their inability to follow the simple four-way-stop pattern when the power is out or a traffic light is on the blink is the source of endless frustration for me.
Tickets issued from UK speed cameras do carry points as well as a fine. You can contest it if, say, there is another car in the picture that may have triggered it. Or if there were no signs up warning you that speed cameras were in operation. (the theory being that the cameras should be there to slow people down - not catch them out).
The latest craze in some areas of the UK is average speed calculators. They set up a network of cameras on a route and calculate how long it takes you to get from one to the next. If you got there too quick, they slap you a ticket.
Not only do we have these static bright yellow cameras dotted around, we have to look out for speed camera vans parked at the side of the road with their mobile camera pointing out the back clocking your speed. Again.. they'll issue you with points and a fine if you speed past them.
You aren't safe anywhere...
Also take into consideration that they recently introduced a 2 year probation period for new drivers. If in the first 2 years of driving you get 6 points or more (thats just 2 instances of speeding) they take your license away and make you pass both theory and practical tests again before you get it back (an expensive and time consuming task). After your 2 years you are allowed 12 points (or 4 tickets) before you get a ban.
The upshot of this is that people spend more time looking at either their speedo or the side of the road trying to spot sneakily positioned cameras instead of the road ahead.
In relation to ladyofflight2004's comment about bus lane cameras; the buses in Nottingham have been fitted with cameras in the front which will snap a shot of any driver in front of them in the bus lane. More revenue generators.... though I do admit that people cutting queues by using the bus lane do irritate me somewhat when I've spent 10 minutes patiently waiting my turn.
That's a lot of cameras! Eep!