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Yay! Not all nutcase politicians are from the U.S.! [Mar. 4th, 2007|09:50 am]
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UFO science key to halting climate change: former Canadian defense minister

And since yahoo news articles tend to disappear in short order, the text:

OTTAWA (AFP) - A former Canadian defense minister is demanding governments worldwide disclose and use secret alien technologies obtained in alleged UFO crashes to stem climate change, a local paper said Wednesday.

"I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation ... that could be a way to save our planet," Paul Hellyer, 83, told the Ottawa Citizen.

Alien spacecrafts would have traveled vast distances to reach Earth, and so must be equipped with advanced propulsion systems or used exceptional fuels, he told the newspaper.

Such alien technologies could offer humanity alternatives to fossil fuels, he said, pointing to the enigmatic 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico -- which has become a shrine for UFO believers -- as an example of alien contact.

"We need to persuade governments to come clean on what they know. Some of us suspect they know quite a lot, and it might be enough to save our planet if applied quickly enough," he said.

Hellyer became defense minister in former prime minister Lester Pearson's cabinet in 1963, and oversaw the controversial integration and unification of Canada's army, air force and navy into the Canadian Forces.

He shocked Canadians in September 2005 by announcing he once saw a UFO.

No comment I can think of making adds anything to this.

[User Picture]From: shandra
2007-03-04 04:04 pm (UTC)
Hey we had a Prime Minister who regularly consulted his dog and his (deceased) mother, among other spirits. But he kept it out of his politics. :)

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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-04 08:45 pm (UTC)
And I heartily approve of his choice.

To keep it out of politics.
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[User Picture]From: thejunebug
2007-03-04 04:05 pm (UTC)
Sigh. It means my life is going to be miserable.

There is a student who lives in our library- literally. Never showers, since the library doesn't offer showers, eats from the vending machines, sleeps on the couches in the commons area, etc. He's not destitute; he has money. He's told us that he lives in the library because it means he doesn't have to pay room & board. Anyway, you can imagine he's a little on the ripe side.

He comes to talk to me EVERY night, for at least an hour, about aliens and the government conspiracy theory known as The Disclosure Project.

He's going to EAT THIS UP. Damn.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-04 08:46 pm (UTC)
Um, why does the library endure him? Can they not throw him out?

And has he not heard of the gym, where there are shower facilities?

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[User Picture]From: the_siobhan
2007-03-04 04:57 pm (UTC)
Aw. bless. I was worried we were running short of looney politicians here.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-04 08:48 pm (UTC)
You made me snicker.
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[User Picture]From: cathawk
2007-03-04 05:46 pm (UTC)
It's nice to know that the U.S. doesn't have a monopoly on nutcase politicians though! ;)
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[User Picture]From: weirman
2007-03-04 07:28 pm (UTC)
It is enormously ridiculous. Kind of the other end of a lot of the religious comments we often see.

But it'd be absolutely hilarious if he was right. I don't think he could be, but it'd be pretty funny nonetheless.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-04 08:53 pm (UTC)
I'm partially amused by the ego that assumes that we would have the capability to exploit any such technology.

Then again, we did take down the entire alien fleet with a Mac Powerbook, so I'm probably just being cynical.
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[User Picture]From: longtimegone
2007-03-04 09:17 pm (UTC)
Being that I am trekking my way through all 9 seasons of the X Files that I recently acquired on DVD? This is particularly hilarious! :))
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[User Picture]From: batshua
2007-03-05 06:09 am (UTC)
Well, if there were alien technology that could help us, wouldn't you want it?
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-05 11:45 am (UTC)
Yes, and if flying unicorns who only ate air and pooped rainbows could be harnessed to pull our cars through the skies like chariots, I'd like that, too.

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[User Picture]From: yndy
2007-03-05 08:04 pm (UTC)
So does that imply that you're in the quarter of the population who doesn't believe that UFOs exist and are, in fact, alien visitations?

Just curious.
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-05 08:06 pm (UTC)
It's only a quarter of the population???

Surely you jest! I wanna see the stats on this! (Not that I think you're making it up, I just can't quite wrap my brain around it.)
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[User Picture]From: yndy
2007-03-06 03:25 am (UTC)
Well, I'm having a darn hard time finding links for you! lol...
But the last hard statistic I had was from a documentary (I'm fairly certain it was on either the History channel or TLC) that quoted the statistic of 72%.

This leads to a cached page that links to lots of different studies, indicating better than 50% of Americans "believe" in UFOs and 70-75% or better believe in intelligent life elsewhere in the universe

This shows the result of the Roper Poll back in 1999 showing varying statistics - apparently, men believe more frequently than women, and age is a factor...

This kind of amused me - it's a 2000 study of college students - the part that caught my attention was:
The U.S. government has knowledge of UFO sightings. 53% agree 36% neutral 12% disagree

The funny part is - I can find numbers ranging from 30% to 70% - I guess it depends on who you ask and when!! :P

(We already know my stance on it...)
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[User Picture]From: zoethe
2007-03-06 04:21 am (UTC)
Okay, there is a huge difference between believing that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe (which I do) and that said life has managed to visit our planet (which I doubt).

I have seen a couple damned bizarre things in the night sky, but over the years I have sort of resigned myself to the fact that, even if they aren't explicable, they also aren't anything we will ever be able to understand, let alone utilize. Upon comprehending the distances involved, I am currently convinced that there is nothing that could reach us, despite my vague wish that it could.

I can't explain what you saw. I can't explain the thing in the sky that I saw in a grocery store parking lot in Alaska, where a lot of people stood around saying, "what the hell is that?" But I also can't make the jump to "alien tech" on so little evidence.
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